Suspected drunk pilot in OMA? Republic/CHQ

[79%N1]

Quick question. Was he on board the plane? If not, is it a crime for a crew member to show up intoxicated at the airport?

 

[ackattacker]

Quick question. Was he on board the plane? If not, is it a crime for a crew member to show up intoxicated at the airport?

Good question. In most of the drunk pilot cases I'm aware of they wait till the person gets into the cockpit before they make their move.

However I'm pretty sure I've heard of people being charged with "intent" to operate an aircraft under the influence. I'm not sure if the charge is locality specific.

 

[Ridgeback]

Showing up drunk for a flight is always a bad deal, but nobody knows the circumstances involved. It's amazing to see pilots bashing each other and acting like a bunch of school girls. Is everyone looking for a upgrade from first officer?

And what "Circumstance involved" would make it OK to show up drunk for a flight....Amazing?

"0" tolerance for reporting for duty drunk. Or would you be ok if your doctor was "a little drunk" for your surgery?

 

[ex j-41]

Plenty of doctors with alcohol/drug issues.
They just keep it on the low.

 

[emspilot 01]

Suspected Drunk Pilot...

There are no facts and only speculation to this point. I'm wondering if other flight crew members might have known. Any required crew member showing up with the intent of flying drunk is never a good thing. Besides getting fired from your company. He could end up serving some jail time.

 

[sunlitpath]

Quick question. Was he on board the plane? If not, is it a crime for a crew member to show up intoxicated at the airport?

Yes. Showing up at the airport after an overnight with fellow crewmembers, in the absence of reporting yourself unavailable to crew scheduling, is considered intention to operate. There is no way to escape the wrath that will follow. The company, the public, law enforcement, and many others will not have any sympathy. The only protection from such unpleasant outcomes is to show up without any alcohol in your blood. Therefore, without exception and without excuse, never show up as a crewmember or jumpseater with any alcohol in your blood. You can metabolize one drink an hour. Give yourself wide margin. If you can't do this, then you may need assistance with alcohol dependence. Get private help. Do not go through your company. Stop drinking so much, you dodo bird.

 

[79%N1]

I thought so. I was wondering if he lawyers up and the lawyer can claim he wasn't going to fly, but he was going to call out sick at the airport....etc, etc.

 

[Megalops]

Not bitter at all, just pointing out the cold, hard,,,,,,,,truth. You do not have a HIMS program.

 

[sunlitpath]

I thought so. I was wondering if he lawyers up and the lawyer can claim he wasn't going to fly, but he was going to call out sick at the airport....etc, etc.

I hear ya. There is always a chance in the American Judicial Sytem. This one is a tough sell though.

 

[chqflyer]

well IBT 357 has a great HIMS program,,,,,,,,,wait you guys DONT have a HIMS program do you? in case you dont know, you DONT, YEA IBT, ONE LIST, ONE VOICE, ONE CONTRACT, not that it would help now, but it might have helped before he dove off the deep end. Do you know who has stepped up and helped rep/chq/whoever pilots in the past with this issue? FAPA not IBT. Call Doug Turner maybe he can help.

Does it really make you feel better to take potshots at a lowly rj kid that just ********************ed up his life? Don't worry, the divorce is almost finalized and we can all go about our merry ways.

 

[emspilot 01]

Suspected Drunk Pilot in Omaha...

I hear ya. There is always a chance in the American Judicial Sytem. This one is a tough sell though.

There really cracking down on drinking and anything now days. I think he will be very lucky for not serving any jail time...

 

[Megalops]

I never said one word about the pilot, but since you brought it up, guess which group is gonna get drug through the mud over this? I have pointed out that IBT 357 does not have a HIMS program, why not?

You guys need to ask that question not me. If I do not make that obvious shortcoming known now, then please tell me when would be a good time? next one perhaps? or maybe the one after that?


This is not even the first time this has happened over there, still no HIMS program at IBT local 357.

 

[Megalops]

I never said one word about the pilot, but since you brought it up, guess which group is gonna get drug through the mud over this? I have pointed out that IBT 357 does not have a HIMS program, why not?

You guys need to ask that question not me. If I do not make that obvious shortcoming known now, then please tell me when would be a good time? next one perhaps? or maybe the one after that?


This is not even the first time this has happened over there, still no HIMS program at IBT local 357.

 

[Max Q]

I never said one word about the pilot, but since you brought it up, guess which group is gonna get drug through the mud over this? I have pointed out that IBT 357 does not have a HIMS program, why not?

You guys need to ask that question not me. If I do not make that obvious shortcoming known now, then please tell me when would be a good time? next one perhaps? or maybe the one after that?


This is not even the first time this has happened over there, still no HIMS program at IBT local 357.

 

[regionaltard]

Yep. Snitch..

I was really just commenting on the irony of the situation had the guy tipped the van driver minutes before said van driver made the phone call to ruin his life.. That's all.. D-bag

The pilot made a choice that changed his life. Big difference. He had my complete support right up 'till the moment that he got on the van instead of picking up the phone and asking for help.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

"and another one bites the dust"
Proof the pilot shortage is here, his flightwas short one pilot.

 

[ASADFW7]

I had the opportunity to speak to a hotel staff and a pilot who works for the same company. It is not a great story and it is upsetting that multiple incidents have occurred within the same company in the last 12 months.

 

[outerlimits]

I had the opportunity to speak to a hotel staff and a pilot who works for the same company. It is not a great story and it is upsetting that multiple incidents have occurred within the same company in the last 12 months.

It is kind of a crazy story that happened the night before.

 

[hockeypilot44]

Not ironic in the least. The van driver made a call that potentially saved lives. At the very least his call kept the other pilot from being placed in a tough spot. Please stop being an idiot--the van driver's phone call didn't ruin this pilot's life. THE PILOT RUINED HIS OWN LIFE. The fact that you are incapable of making that distinction makes me question whether you should be in the cockpit at all. What is it with this generation of kids that cannot take responsibility for their actions? Geesh!

Bull. The van driver is a prick. He could have confronted the pilot in the van. If he would have let the pilot know he was calling the police, I'm sure the pilot would have gone back to the hotel with the van driver. The van driver is a rat, plain and simple. It's still the pilot's fault also, but the van driver is a scumbag.

 

[Snapshot]

Bull. The van driver is a prick. He could have confronted the pilot in the van. If he would have let the pilot know he was calling the police, I'm sure the pilot would have gone back to the hotel with the van driver. The van driver is a rat, plain and simple. It's still the pilot's fault also, but the van driver is a scumbag.

What are you basing the assumption that he didn't confront him on?

Hopefully, he will be able to stand up and face the consequences of his own actions and forge some sort of life moving forward. Every second he spends indulging in the 'stop snitching' ghetto mentality will lead him to ruin.

Confronting drunk pilots and saving them from themselves is not in a van drivers wheelhouse.

Interesting that you have nothing to say about the other crewmember, who actually fully understands how all aspects of the drunk in the van scenario play out. If anyone is honor-bound to protect the fool's career, it's him. Of course, that would require an assumption that he was fully aware of his(her?) partner being drunk.

 

[Flyprdu]

The irony is still there.. d-bag

It's like raaaaaain... on your wedding day..

 

[Clutch]

It's like raaaaaain... on your wedding day..

Or a free ride... When you've already paid

 

[FSIGRAD]

According to another forum, an XJT crew was on the van to the hotel with the Cha crew the night before. The XJT crew say that both Cha guys were being rude to the van driver, in part because he made them wait for the XJT crew. So if the morning escapades involve the same crew and same van driver (big assumption), my guess is that there was no tipping... unless you count the van driver tipping off the airport police.

Wow, so much untrue nonsense spread around. The crew arrived at 1030 AM the day before. Not with your XJT buddies. The crew member involved took a different shuttle to the airport, never saw or was with his crew. The van driver did not call the police. Hotel management did.
The captain in question screwed up and will pay for his actions.

 

[nordo_2]

Weakness draws aggression….

 

[Ridgeback]

Bull. The van driver is a prick. He could have confronted the pilot in the van. If he would have let the pilot know he was calling the police, I'm sure the pilot would have gone back to the hotel with the van driver. The van driver is a rat, plain and simple. It's still the pilot's fault also, but the van driver is a scumbag.

Once again Amazing!!! So your a rat because you caught the guy raping your wife? I should feel bad for the guy that raped your wife because he got caught. Are you saying had he be given the chance to stop the rape half way into the act it's ok?

You sir have the opinion of what is making this country crap. You won't stand up for what's right, instead look for some loophole to have your cake and eat it to.

 

[ex j-41]

A issue here is that a pilot would rather risk his career and life rather than suffer the company consequences. Nice safety culture we have here

 

[GOULET!]

Please indulge us all on the full story. To just tell part of it and then somebody else say it's not true only adds to further speculation and lies.

I also hope they release the guys name. He deserves public humiliation for what he did.

 

[TheRaven]

Dang I wonder what hotel they stay at, I am at the Double Tree in OMA right now.

You could be in the same room the pilot in question slept in, digesting a cookie from the same batch he ate from a few days ago.

 

[ASADFW7]

I skipped the cookie, and there were no UFC fighters left at the hotel the night I was there.

 

[hockeypilot44]

Once again Amazing!!! So your a rat because you caught the guy raping your wife? I should feel bad for the guy that raped your wife because he got caught. Are you saying had he be given the chance to stop the rape half way into the act it's ok?

You sir have the opinion of what is making this country crap. You won't stand up for what's right, instead look for some loophole to have your cake and eat it to.

You sir are weak and look for someone else to do the dirty work. I would confront a drunk pilot myself instead of unanimously calling the police. That is cowardly. I don't feel sorry for this pilot though. It's his own fault.