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Suck it, Duane.

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To Whom It May Concern,

My name is Sig, ALPA 0U812, First Officer at Piedmont Airlines, faithfully on dues checkoff since August 05.


On my meager salary, I've contributed funds to ALPA without complaint. The reason I've been expelled from the Association recently (I received the packet tonight) regards a 25.00 "initiation fee." I paid it via check twice, including the strange fees attached to the "fee" since it increased on the second notice. I'd contacted Gina Leahy for clarification on why I mysteriously had become a "BAD STANDING" (your caps) pilot, to find out that said monies were due. The first letter/bill arrived coincidentally. I remitted my first payment the same day. Another notice came a month later, and I remitted AGAIN via check, immediately. Figuring the Association was tied up with trying to raise the bar at Mesaba, or funneling huge amounts of time and money into MANPADs research, or planning a BOD bachelor party with a unionized hotel in Vegas, assembling another strongly worded memo on cabotage, or an even stronger-worded memo regarding earthbound pranksters with lasers, I wasn't surprised that my checks hadn't cleared. Busy, busy, busy. As am I, flying 90+ hours a month in the Northeast, mostly below 10,000 feet- in other words, working for a living.

How do I grudgingly rejoin this association that has so atrociously let me down? NOBODY, and I do mean NOBODY let me know I was in bad standing- I found out by trying to log on to the ALPA website; until then I was blissfully unaware how much of an enemy to organized labor I'd become. I thought I'd washed my hands of the affair by paying the hush money via check- apparently you never got it. I'll happily pay some arbitrary sum to retain my job, since apparently the bullying is focused on the labor instead of the management in Section 29. Name the sum, I'll pay to play, and pay another day after day after day.

Why? Because my job is apparently in jeopardy. Pipe wielding Mafiosos are the honorable incarnation of this group- at least I can SEE who it is threatening to end my livelihood. When the chips are down, the laughable situation the mindless thirst for money has caused will relegate my job and my hard working MEC to the "fifth-tier and easily forgettable," since the preservation of the ALPA endorsed contracts that pay the Union higher dues and their constituents' wishes will be paramount at face value. But that's when the chips are on the table! In this ephemeral state of moderate stability in my airline regime, I'm threatened. Nice. Thank you.

I'll send it via FedEX. I've wasted $.80 or so on the USPS, so I'll send it via a better company.

Just tell me how much I owe. Hey, look! Think of how many words' worth of ink I'll be able to contribute in the next ALPA Enquirer- it's up to the decade information (GREAT piece on Gemini last month... bankruptcy should have been on one of the banners flying high regardless of press time, but I understand it diminishes the hype) is a privilege to behold and contribute to. Can I please at least request that my ink doesn't go toward insulting the great leaders of ALPA past- when efficacy exceeded rhetoric and money was tight? Behnke would puke, and real union sensibility would be fast and loud with an apology. I shan't waste my time on what a unionized employee should expect; I'll settle for a bill from you.

Thoroughly disgusted, yet oddly unsurprised-

Sig


*CC of a message sent to ALPA. I'm not holding my breath... the pigs.
 
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Hell hath no fury like ALPA scorned . . .

Har har har har!

God, that makes me want to get deliquent on my dues just to send a similar letter.

Really now, DW earns every penny of his HALF MILLION PER YEAR ALPA SALARY to come up with strongly worded letters of concern for ground based lasers!

That was priceless!
 
Soverytired said:
Har har har har!

God, that makes me want to get deliquent on my dues just to send a similar letter.

I'm not delinquent on my dues- I didn't pay some mysterious "Initiation Fee." My dues were yanked from my paycheck... and I don't really recall signing the document that allowed it. I don't care- I'll willingly pay, especially to contribute to strike funds and the like. But I was never told about BAD STANDINGism- that kinda ticked me off. They're still deducting dues from my paycheck.
 
1973Arrow said:
If you're "not a member," why not send them a bill for the money they've taken out of your paycheck...

Funny you say that! I CAN. But before that's laid out to me, in black and white the letter says explicitly that I am now subject to termination as a Piedmont Airlines pilot.*

Which is ridiculous, since I've willingly (in the spirit of my MEC and LEC only) allowed ALPA to yank my dues before the paycheck is issued.

We're talking about $25.00, and I thought I was clear. Hundreds of bucks later, it isn't.

*This has nothing to do with my airline, either. It's the closed shop mentality of the labor "union." Nice bullying tactic, eh? Main thrust (rectally on their part) is that I'm totally willing to pay this token protection money. The dues ARE paid.
 
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Sig my good man,

Good luck keeping your job over a lousy $25. I suspect they still want your dues. I can honestly say, at least you're not IBT. They take the cake for extortion-type practices... 1st year employees get the privilege of paying the FULL YEAR of dues, and can be summarily terminated by the company without cause any time during said year, while the IBT stands by and does absolutely NOTHING! This actually happens on occasion.
 
fugghedabowdit said:
I heard somewhere that you can legally give what would have been your dues to a charity of your choice. Any truth to this?
I think that there is something like that available. I remember hearing a court case about a teacher who didn't want to pay his dues to the NEA. Supposedly the NEA gave money to planned parenthood, or something like that, and he didn't want his money used to support abortions.

The result was that he still had to pay dues, but he could give them to some other organization.
 
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Oh, no, I understood you the first time . . .

Sig said:
I'm not delinquent on my dues- I didn't pay some mysterious "Initiation Fee." My dues were yanked from my paycheck... and I don't really recall signing the document that allowed it. I don't care- I'll willingly pay, especially to contribute to strike funds and the like. But I was never told about BAD STANDINGism- that kinda ticked me off. They're still deducting dues from my paycheck.

Yup. I got-ya. You're not the first pilot this has happened to. I've had friends at Mesa get the same treatment . . . pay dues, then get nasty-grams when ALPA lost the $25 check -or- ALPA went a year before they decided to send them a bill along with the "BS" nasty-gram.

You're the first one to come up with such a colorful protest, "suck it dwane" letter though! :)
 
Classic!!
 
Sig,

Stop being a little bitch. I'm sure ALPA wasn't trying to screw you. It's only $25 dollars. Give me a break! If you're not responsible enough to check on your initiation fees then don't blame ALPA. You sound like an idiot to me and if I was running ALPA I'd kick you out for simply being a jackass.

Good day now.
 
Business and Commercial Aviation, April 2006, "The Teamsters' Fractionalized Air Corps," 81: "It may have been an unintended salute to the Teamster's local [IBT Local 1108], but during a January news conference in washington, none other than ALPA President Duane Woerth responded to a question about the b leak prospects for his members thusly: "I tell 'em to go check out NetJets... Go fly for Warren Buffet."

The dude extorts your dues from you, and this is the advice he gives in return.
 
did you try contacting your rep on the matter? instead of kvetching on here?
i'm not saying alpa nat'l isn't messed up, but ******************** happens sometimes man, clerical problems, lost mail, etc
 
dashjockey said:
did you try contacting your rep on the matter? instead of kvetching on here?
i'm not saying alpa nat'l isn't messed up, but ******************** happens sometimes man, clerical problems, lost mail, etc

Yea... And even if its ALPA's fault look out!!! When it comes to them and there money..... Its like the Sapranos!!!!!
 
Captain Overs said:
Sig,

Stop being a little bitch. I'm sure ALPA wasn't trying to screw you. It's only $25 dollars. Give me a break! If you're not responsible enough to check on your initiation fees then don't blame ALPA. You sound like an idiot to me and if I was running ALPA I'd kick you out for simply being a jackass.

Good day now.

Overs, you gibbering little fellatrix- I blame them for not letting me know this fee was over due, then I blame them for kicking me out after I paid. Twice.

I can't tell if it's impotence or incontinence, or maybe incompetence... go have a stroke.
 
Believe it or not, the same thing happened to me. I went from "BAD STANDING" to expelled following three months and as many checks. (Two of which actually cleared. I'm so glad ALPA doesn't run a bank.)

The crowning moment of stupidity, though, was the month I got billed for my father's ALPA dues.
 

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