Years ago in Africa a Hawker took one up the #2. Now remember that Hawkers are built like tanks, but the crew brought that one back to the airport safe and sound. Minus the # two and some holes in the rudder if I recall correctly.
From what I recall from that incident, the two missles were air to air, fired by a fighter sent to assassinate some Africian President. Anyways, the first missle hit the engine, but it did not explode, just sheared the engine off the airframe. The second missle "locked on" to that sheared off engine and exploded clear of the Hawker.
bluto,
I don't think the "terrorist" suffer from a lack of ingenuity or resourcefulness (i.e. needing ideas from this board). After watching the horror of Sept. 11th, I believe their devious little minds have concocted a slew of scenarios to wreck havoc on us.
On the other hand, maybe the CIA, FBI and others could benefit from the banter displayed on this board. The latest sting operation was nice to see, since the only REAL defense against these guys is a good offense.
I agree HOUMAN. The more we know about our enemies, the better off we'll be. We can't just stick our heads in the sand and hope for the best.
As some great football coach once said, "The best offense is a great defense." If we know about all the flea flickers and trick plays they have up their sleeve, and keep an eye on the weak side, we should hopefully be able to keep them from scoring, or even crossing the 50 yard line.
(sorry, just getting a little excited about the upcoming NFL season.)
Airport security has nothing to do with it. All you need is a pickup truck or a wooded area near approach or departure. ATL is a perfect example. There are tons of places to set up camp around loop road.
If you ask me the hawker was pretty dang lucky. An exploding engine next to my fuel tank and shrapnel making holes in my control surfaces are the last thing I need when I go to work.
Don't mean to sound paranoid but I definitley see this as their next move. It's not a matter of if but when. Like I said, it would be a hell of a lot easier to pull off than Sept. 11.
Hey bluto...check this out. Every time a "DON"T" person gets on here and says don't talk about this, that and the other thing...it's like I'd just like to flick a booger in his coffee...Thanks for saving us from the terrorists bluto and if you can understand the JIST of the hard core information including blueprints on this link below on how to make a link...then you can understand my irkedness about "shhhhhhh" people pontificating about not discussing what is on the local and national news.
Before you take out yer sheet metal and your dremel tools boy's, you better get real familiar with the Code of Federal Regulations in the title pertaining to BATF.
Hey bluto...check this out. Every time a "DON"T" person gets on here and says don't talk about this, that and the other thing...it's like I'd just like to flick a buger in his coffee...Thanks for saving us from the terrorists bluto and if you can understand the JIST of the hard core information including blueprints on this link on how to make a link...then you can understand my irkedness about "shhhhhhh" people pontificating about not discussing what is on the local and national news.
Before you take out yer sheet metal and your dremel tools boy's, you better get real familiar with the Code of Federal Regulations in the title pertaining to BATF.
I guess what I'm driving at is if you were in the military and knew which countermeasures worked against certain types of weapons, it's probably not a good idea (you signed something that said you wouldn't) to post it in an unclassified forum.
The towelheads in Desert Storm were so backwards that they'd turn off their transistor radios because they were afraid a HARM missile would lock in on them.
So, their buddies in Al Qaeda have learned a few things since then. Does it really pay to give them more ideas?
Interesting to note that it was in the Tom Clancy book "Debt of Honor" where the bad guys hijack a jumbo jet and crash it into the White House. I doubt if we are telling these guys anything they don't already know.
The towelheads in Desert Storm were so backwards that they'd turn off their transistor radios because they were afraid a HARM missile would lock in on them.
Khload...please don't tell me that you cannot understand the correlation between some guy telling us that talking about stuff that was on 60 minutes this weekend, was going to aid the terrorists any more than information readily found in places such as on the net, books, arson investigation training films, police training films, airline training films.
My point was...there is more better information out there, than guys discussing what they saw on 60 minutes on an aviation forum. Just like what 46 driver is saying here...
Interesting to note that it was in the Tom Clancy book "Debt of Honor" where the bad guys hijack a jumbo jet and crash it into the White House. I doubt if we are telling these guys anything they don't already know.
Before you take out yer sheet metal and your dremel tools boy's, you better get real familiar with the Code of Federal Regulations in the title pertaining to BATF.
And just to make sure every body is on the same page...That was a disclaimer. You cannot possess the lightning link AND possess a Colt AR-15 or bushmaster rifle, at the same time...unless you are in compliance with CFRs pertaining to such items. The link to the lightning link article, was posted to present a fact that there is plenty of information out there for people to use if they want to assemble evil items and use them against us.
Also to consider...how do you outlaw the possession of knowledge?
No, I was actually trying to find out why tea costs so darn much up in EWR. I had a layover there a couple weeks ago and the restaurant in the hotel charged me $1.95 for a glass of iced tea. A bit much, I think, but well within my per diem so I didn't protest to the manager. Does anyone else on this board recall what they paid recently for a glass of iced tea in different parts of the U.S.??
Why, were you trying to make a point about something else??
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