Still No one has listed a reason not to have ALPA

[Mr Wu]

You are supposed to say.. oh sorry, I was on the landline. I want to say that sometime, oh man.

regards

You don't have the balls...

 

[better up here]

tom told me not to.

 

[ATR Pirate]

i'm sure alpa could turn colgan into the next FedEx..i mean..look what they've done for ASA, Comair, Mesa...the list of success stories goes on..

 

[Mr Wu]

i'm sure alpa could turn colgan into the next FedEx..i mean..look what they've done for ASA, Comair, Mesa...the list of success stories goes on..

Think of what these companies would be like without ALPA.

 

[DX Rick]

Think of what these companies would be like without ALPA.

"but our situation was different."
"We had our backs to the wall"
"It's better than what we could have taken"

 

[GEORGE DUBYA]

Let's face it 23 yr old embry riddle graduate wet behing the ear idiots for alpa at colgan it ain't gonna pass. Texas sucks and they are the only ones for ALPA the vote will come you will see!
PS if it passes do we all have to wear lanyards?

 

[DX Rick]

Think of what these companies would be like without ALPA.

Mesa can't get any worse. AH did a beautiful job, fluffing JO for his 12-14 yrs while in office.
All AH did was hand down what JO was willing to offer, and no more.

This is a classic situation where ALPA National should step in, remove AH and put someone else in there to negotiate. But why didn't they?

When a Fraternity on a college campus is in trouble or decline with pledges or grades who steps in? Thats right, their National Rep.

 

[Fred Rogers]

Mesa can't get any worse. AH did a beautiful job, fluffing JO for his 12-14 yrs while in office.
All AH did was hand down what JO was willing to offer, and no more.

This is a classic situation where ALPA National should step in, remove AH and put someone else in there to negotiate. But why didn't they?

When a Fraternity on a college campus is in trouble or decline with pledges or grades who steps in? Thats right, their National Rep.

I guess that's just proof that ALPA National does not force things on you. One arguement that I hear is that the national leaders at ALPA are just waiting to to impose their will on the Colgan Pilots, and that we will be pawns in their agenda. Simply not true.

Why didn't the MEC / Mesa Pilots step in and take care of it? That is who the responsibility falls on.

 

[Fred Rogers]

Let's face it 23 yr old embry riddle graduate wet behing the ear idiots for alpa at colgan it ain't gonna pass. Texas sucks and they are the only ones for ALPA the vote will come you will see!
PS if it passes do we all have to wear lanyards?

Dubya, I havn't heard from you in a while.

If you think that the only people for ALPA are in Texas, then you might be the most out of touch person I have ever seen.

 

[70-SS]

Let's face it 23 yr old embry riddle graduate wet behing the ear idiots for alpa at colgan it ain't gonna pass. Texas sucks and they are the only ones for ALPA the vote will come you will see!
PS if it passes do we all have to wear lanyards?

Yes. Support your pilot group. 350 voices strong!!!!

 

[Thug Life]

Yes. Support your pilot group. 350 voices strong!!!!

My MEC speaks for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mr Wu]

Dubya, I havn't heard from you in a while.

He was busy moving from North Bumfcuk to West Bumfcuk.

 

[PCL_128]

Why didn't the MEC / Mesa Pilots step in and take care of it? That is who the responsibility falls on.

But Fred, that's too much common sense for guys like DX Rick. You're talking personal responsibility. You're talking involvement. They don't want to hear that. They'd rather just attack ALPA. Any mention of personal involvement and responsibility falls on deaf ears with the ALPA-bashing crowd.

 

[kngarthur]

Still waiting??? Come up with some lie management has not sent you in the letters.

HOw about this! TransStates, Pinnacle, Mesa, Eagle.

 

[suupah]

The memo sent out today by management about how we would save money if we don't pay alpa just shows how completely out of touch with their employees they are. Absolutely amazing. Completely offensive.

For every memo the pres puts out 5 more people decide to vote yes.

 

[TNHillbilly]

The memo sent out today by management about how we would save money if we don't pay alpa just shows how completely out of touch with their employees they are. Absolutely amazing. Completely offensive.

I was actually looking for investment advice. Thanks Colgan!! What a joke.

 

[TNHillbilly]

HOw about this! TransStates, Pinnacle, Mesa, Eagle.

Give your in depth experience with these companies please? Will you please list what ALPA has done to these companies specifically. I am really being serious here. Because I don't know much about these companies. Is it ALPA's fault or managements fault. Please reply. I want specifics because apparently you are the expert.

 

[PCL_128]

The memo sent out today by management about how we would save money if we don't pay alpa just shows how completely out of touch with their employees they are. Absolutely amazing. Completely offensive.

I just loved it because it serves as a great reminder to the pilots that the company doesn't contribute anything to their 401(k). "You better put that 1.95% in your 401(k) instead of giving it to ALPA, because we certainly aren't going to give you any money for retirement!"

 

[Mr Wu]

Dont pay dues, just invest in Colgans GREAT 401K!!!
I'd love to take credit for this but it was PM'd to me...

They brought up the idea of investing in a 401K and how much it will be worth... Well, here is how much a 401K would be worth if we had a decent one with matching contributions...


Annual Rate Of Return
5% 8% 10%





5 Years



With Match $28,690 $30,934 $32,517
Without Match $22,725 $24,502 $25,756
Difference $5,965 $6,432 $6,761





10 Years



With Match $ 65,307 $ 76,385 $ 84,886
Without Match $ 51,729 $ 60,503 $ 67,236
Difference $ 13,578 $ 15,882 $ 17,650





15 Years



With Match $ 112,041 $143,169 $169,227
Without Match $ 88,745 $113,401 $134,041
Difference $ 23,296 $ 29,768 $ 35,186





20 Years



With Match $ 171,686 $241,269 $305,059
Without Match $ 135,989 $191,125 $241,631
Difference $ 35,697 $ 50,144 $ 63,428

 

[70-SS]

Dont pay dues, just invest in Colgans GREAT 401K!!!
I'd love to take credit for this but it was PM'd to me...

Not a great recruiting tool COLGAN

No wonder junior fo's leave for other commuter airlines. Management does not get it.