Spirit contract unofficial results?

[chase]

Posted on the LCC/National section

74% approve, 96% voted

Any confirmation?

Thoughts on impact to AAI, other ALPA carriers?

 

[AKAAB]

It's confirmed on www.ALPA.org. The TA has been accepted.

 

[Sandhawk]

What a waste of a strike.........

Get em next time, boys!

 

[enigma]

What a waste of a strike.........

Get em next time, boys!

No strike is wasted as long as you got what you wanted. I really, REALLY, expected more of a pay raise, but the voting results indicate that 74% of the Spirit group got what they wanted.

Me?, If it were my decision, I'd never advocate for a strike unless I believed that the pre-strike working conditions were in fact intolerable, and if I believed that significant gains were possible. It appears that Bill Franke forced us to strike in order to make even minor gains. If he want's to play that game, I predict that Spirit will become known as the rattlesnake pilot group of the 20-teens.

 

[samballs]

OH strike failed, Spirit strike big fail, ALPA FAIL

 

[boomlrd]

I hate YES voters

 

[Old School 737]

Just so I don't spend a tone of time looking can someone post new pay scale and explain the 4 day off thing after getting in from a trip.
Thx.

 

[Mike man]

4 days off, is just that 4 days off after a set of days on...which is mostly 6 in a row (6 turns, 2 x turns and a 4 day, 2 x 3 days, or any variation).

Basically we are 6 on 4 off, so many lines have 12-14 days off and three blocks of 6 days on. Its pretty good for the commuters, and pretty good for the junior guys because they will usually get one full weekend off and one other weekend day off somewhere in the month.

Here is the pay scale from the TA (it says draft but it is what the YES voters voted in)

 

[SWA/FO]

What does DOS+1 mean?

 

[Metrojet]

What does DOS+1 mean?

Date of signing
+1 year
+2 years
+3 years
etc
etc

 

[Kharma Police]

4 days off, is just that 4 days off after a set of days on...which is mostly 6 in a row (6 turns, 2 x turns and a 4 day, 2 x 3 days, or any variation).

Basically we are 6 on 4 off, so many lines have 12-14 days off and three blocks of 6 days on. Its pretty good for the commuters, and pretty good for the junior guys because they will usually get one full weekend off and one other weekend day off somewhere in the month.

Here is the pay scale from the TA (it says draft but it is what the YES voters voted in)

Interesting jump in pay scales as the contract matures. What seniority is the most junior captain?

 

[embraerjetpilot]

Looks like 74 percent of Spirit pilots are a joke! How could they ever vote in a contract without retro pay?

 

[bubbers44]

Looks like 74 percent of Spirit pilots are a joke! How could they ever vote in a contract without retro pay?

74% of the Spirit pilots think they improved the TA as much as could be expected. Being released to cooling off is the only way airlines will improve working conditions and pay as was shown at Spirit. Maybe now other pilot groups will be given that opportunity.

 

[pilotyip]

and after all the "No" chatter, 74% yes, that is almost like a land slide

 

[aeolian]

Looks like 74 percent of Spirit pilots are a joke! How could they ever vote in a contract without retro pay?

I love all you hairy chested guys who establish some personal litmus test which, regardless of the quality of the package in todo, must be passed before you can see your way to yes!

Such logic well always leave an open door to say no to something which on balance is an improvement worth ratifying. You have to look at the total package, weigh the costs of an extended strike with the likelihood of achieving the desired improvement. If this deal is better on balance and your leadership believes it's the best that can be done then you are wise to follow their guidance, as it appears the vast majority of Spirit pilots did.