Spirit ALPA Wins Arbitration on 4-days-off Language

[600rvr]

Got the recall for April training for May 1st. More evidence that the arbitration was a success. Don't know how many they will call. I have bypassed before...

 

[Shrek]

Got the recall for April training for May 1st. More evidence that the arbitration was a success. Don't know how many they will call. I have bypassed before...

Congrats on the recall.....

 

[:-)]

Really.....you remember all of my posts for the last seven years. I did'nt know I played such an important role in your life. I dont know whether to be flattered or creaped out! As I've said before, you really need to get a life.

No need to panic. I don't remember your post for seven years. I haven't been a FI member for that long. I searched, that's all, and found your posts.

My point was that you were happy to be at spirit when you got hired, and now you and a lot of others don't seem to want to be here.

I'm sorry that Spirit didn't turn out to be the 18 month upgrade you were promised. Someone with a little more experience in life might have recognized the companys BS and had more realistic expectations.

 

[Mike man]

Can we knock off the lovers spat and LITCHAT7?

 

[:-)]

Can we knock off the lovers spat and LITCHAT7?

Not until I achieve total victory and supremacy.

 

[Mike man]

Not until I achieve total victory and supremacy.

ummm...just use protection.

 

[kwick]

Hey Calvin, Your full of ********************!

The planes are on order. The fuel went out of control and the economy dumped.They deferred delivery. Are you a complete idiot or what?

 

[boomlrd]

Can we get back on topic? Does anyone know why it is taking so long to hear an official communication from the MEC regarding the arbitration? I am not trying to be pushy, but usually these types of things are disseminated within a day or two of the ruling, yet it has been over a week since we first heard this rumor, I believe. Just trying to understand the process. Also will we get word from the MEC regarding how many recalls are going out? Just wondering. BTW, I have been very pleased with this MEC and their ability to communicate often with the pilot group, they have been really good about that, thats why I found it strange that this issue was taking so long to hear about.

 

[FLYBOYMATTHEW]

Aside from the "unofficial" recall phone calls that the company has put out...has anyone received an OFFICIAL recall letter?

 

[gatorbird]

I ran into AN earlier in the week and it was the first thing I asked. He said they've seen the draft of the ruling; once the "official" ruling is handed out then the MEC will give an official release of the information. I'm sure there is some legal mumbo-jumbo as to why they can't issue a statement now, but that's not my concern. I had a question, asked it, and got a direct answer.

As a related note, the 12 recalls are a direct result of the arbitration ruling, according to AN. The MEC only knew of the recalls so early on because they had to give the company permission to do a "quick" recall...not my words, so don't ask me.

Supposedly, here's how it'll shake out: 12 recalls, 6 upgrades. 3 FLL, 3 DTW CA slots. Not sure if that'll produce a secondary vacancy for DTW FO slots, but that could be assumed.

If you don't know AN, for pete's sake just walk up to him and introduce yourself. He'll tell you what he can so long as it's not confidential/sensitive/could-get-him-in-big-trouble-for-telling-you information.

gator

 

[gatorbird]

Aside from the "unofficial" recall phone calls that the company has put out...has anyone received an OFFICIAL recall letter?

Judging from how the company botched up the first 2 series of recalls last fall, this is par for the course. I think it's excaserbated by the fact that the company needs them on property within 4 weeks. "Formal", "official", "by-the-book": these are terms not in the Spirit vocabulary .

 

[LITCHAT7]

No need to panic. I don't remember your post for seven years. I haven't been a FI member for that long. I searched, that's all, and found your posts.

Duh...............its called sarcasm. I know you dont have the brain capacity to remember seven years back. Just the fact you had the time to look back on all my posts is pretty pathetic.

My point was that you were happy to be at spirit when you got hired, and now you and a lot of others don't seem to want to be here.

I'm sorry that Spirit didn't turn out to be the 18 month upgrade you were promised

.

I challenge you to find anywhere that i've said I'm unhappy here or that I expected an 18 month upgrade (since you get off on reviewing my posts).

Someone with a little more experience in life might have recognized the companys BS

Who's the one unhappy here anyway?


By the way, good luck on that supremacy. I think if you get the right shoe on the right foot you'll be doing ok.

And Mike, dont worry. I'm done with this turd.

 

[Mike man]

I think there is a Flight Attendant thread you two can take this...for all of our sake.

 

[gatorbird]

Got the recall for April training for May 1st. More evidence that the arbitration was a success. Don't know how many they will call. I have bypassed before...

Congrats to you and the others on that phone call; hopefully everyone that wants it will be back soon.

Quick question on the phone call you received for training: what date did they give you to show up in Miramar? There's a debate going on over on the socialistboard/spiritboard concerning the timeline required of the company for notification of recalls.

Per the contract, a furloughee has 10 days to contact the company upon receipt of the Fedexed letter (which none of you have received), and then an additional 21 days to show for company-related duty. So, that's 31 days after receipt to meet all of the requirements of an eligible recall.

Here's my point: there are some on the other board who are trying to convince the furloughees receiving these calls to buzz off, send them a letter, and they'll see them 31 days later. I'm not the one whose been without a paycheck for 6+ months, so I'm not judging any of you for taking the spot offered upon receipt of the phone call. However, think about how Spirit operates: they'll pick up the phone and get 12 warm bodies on the other side of the line to show up for a class starting in 2 weeks, seniority-order-be-damned. So, let's say 5 of you at the top of the recall list hold them to a letter (ie...don't answer the phone call). They'll bypass you; I'd bet my house on it. Then, once all the smoke clears, it'll be obvious that the company recalled out of seniority order. The 5 of you that held them to the process will be owed a spot as well, since you did nothing outside the bounds of our contract to meet the requirements for a recall.

I'm not sure how long it would take, but I'd say we'd have 17 recalls at that point. That is, unless the company did the lowest of all lows and took the bottom 5 out and re-furloughed them (I don't see Ole and Anderson doing this; it's a flight ops function and neither of these guys are the type to do it).

Just food for thought, as it might happen to a couple of folks. You know Spirit's going to screw something up...

Anyone else have their 2 cents to offer on it?

gator

 

[gatorbird]

Maybe my last post won't make a hill of beans if this is true...

The rumor is gaining ground that we're getting 4 of our "retired" 319s back that went overseas. It was first heard from FLL MTC, but was candidly discussed on the inaugural Medellin flight earlier in the week. Maybe they found a solution for all that extra flying marketing has built in for May/June.

This reminds me of the ASA days; we received some RJs that were Comair N numbers on the back after the Comair strike...assuredly their punishment for a successful shutdown. I guess we're in the same boat with Indigo having other "alter-egos" around the globe to shift our aircraft to. Kinda scary at how easy it is to move them around if this one turns out to be true.

gator