Speculator's mocking the airlines

[Superpilot92]

EEeaassyy now fella.

Do you have facts on hand, statistics, that prove that 'most NetJets customers previously traveled on the airlines in first class'? Many corporate flight department have shrunk. Many VP's and what not who previously flew on the corporate jet now fly fractional. Many companies which chartered flights now fly with a fractional. Many celebrities and wealthy which formally chartered jets now fly with a fractional.

I wouldn't say more than half of the fracs customers are former airline travellers. And of the business frac flyers, I bet half of 'em still have to fly the airlines sometimes.

Evidently they didn't teach him about that last year at riddle.

 

[General Lee]

That's exactly my point. How do you think most Netjets customers traveled the country before Netjets existed? That's right- on the airlines, probably sitting in first class. You lost your bread and butter and they're never coming back. You can raise fares all you want but you'll only lose more trailer trash and continue to park airplanes. Didn't they teach you this at Riddle last year?

That is ridiculous. A lot of the people in first class are million milers, and they are usually middle managers at companies. The CEOs often fly on their own corporate jets, or fractionals. Not many middle managers qualify for that expense. What did very rich people do prior to Netjets? They flew their own corporate planes. As the economy gets worse, those people with their own planes ditch them for fractionals, and that is why Netjets does well. But at least we know one thing, you Netjets guys won't be flying in the back of your own jets (neither will we), you will likely keep flying our airliners (at high fares since they are bought last minute by Netjets---probably our only profitable tickets sold....thanks), and you luckily still get to experience the TSA and all that fun. You guys get to do it at least twice per tour. Enjoy it! If you need some water, ask the stew when she is not busy.......And, did you go to Empty Nipple? You probably were rejected.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Jack Schitt]

Yeah, ya'll are right, it has nothing to do with crappy airline service. Why pay $300 for a round trip ticket when you can pay $5000/hr on a corporate jet? The oil speculators aren't the only ones mocking the airlines. Your best (former)customers have been doing it for years.

 

[skiandsurf]

That is ridiculous. A lot of the people in first class are million milers, and they are usually middle managers at companies. The CEOs often fly on their own corporate jets, or fractionals. Not many middle managers qualify for that expense. What did very rich people do prior to Netjets? They flew their own corporate planes. As the economy gets worse, those people with their own planes ditch them for fractionals, and that is why Netjets does well. But at least we know one thing, you Netjets guys won't be flying in the back of your own jets (neither will we), you will likely keep flying our airliners (at high fares since they are bought last minute by Netjets---probably our only profitable tickets sold....thanks), and you luckily still get to experience the TSA and all that fun. You guys get to do it at least twice per tour. Enjoy it! If you need some water, ask the stew when she is not busy.......And, did you go to Empty Nipple? You probably were rejected.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Wanna bet?
I just got back from my 4th of July vacation. Took a NJs plane from SNA to SDL (drove to Sedona). My wife was surprised that we were treated like owners, not low life non-revers. Drove the car plane side, had the line-guys take our bags.

 

[General Lee]

Wanna bet?
I just got back from my 4th of July vacation. Took a NJs plane from SNA to SDL (drove to Sedona). My wife was surprised that we were treated like owners, not low life non-revers. Drove the car plane side, had the line-guys take our bags.

That's fantastic. Once on Southwest, on the jumpseat, a stew gave me a full Coke. I almost choked up with tears. Who was I? Herb Kelleher? That was fantastic.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Yeah, ya'll are right, it has nothing to do with crappy airline service. Why pay $300 for a round trip ticket when you can pay $5000/hr on a corporate jet? The oil speculators aren't the only ones mocking the airlines. Your best (former)customers have been doing it for years.

At least we know you guys HAVE To fly on airliners too. We can all have fun, and I will try to give PA's to you people when we are delayed, after I eat my Quiznos Sub.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[skiandsurf]

Apparently you dont know Jack Schitt. Netjets has grown my mostly corporations getting rid of corporate fleets and buying Quarter Shares . The avg 121 pax is still an avg 121 pax.

By the way i have never stepped foot on or attended Riddle, moron.

I remember years ago (early 90s) and while flying on UAL, seeing ads for NetJets in the Hemisphere magazine. I thought how crazy it is, that UAL lets them advertise onboard their plane. Funny thing, now there is no advertising (from NJs) in the Hemisphere magazine.

So yes, your first class pax are now with the fractionals, and yes, the "average" 121 is not going to the fractionals.

 

[clippyrip]

At least we know you guys HAVE To fly on airliners too. We can all have fun, and I will try to give PA's to you people when we are delayed, after I eat my Quiznos Sub.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

HA HA HA HA

 

[tomgoodman]

Passengers lie

An Open Letter to All Airlines
... You might find out that airline passengers are more willing to pay up to fly (see the growth of a company like NetJets) when they know it won't be a dreadful experience...

It's been tried by major airlines, and what they found was a loss of revenue. Bob Crandall pointed out years ago that most passengers say they'll gladly pay more for bigger seats, extra legroom, better service etc., then turn around and book the cheapest fare. They'll "pay up" only when they have no other choice.

As for the fractionals, they serve a limited market and inherently cannot expand to cover the public at large, because exclusivity is a major part of their product.

 

[Jack Schitt]

At least we know you guys HAVE To fly on airliners too. We can all have fun, and I will try to give PA's to you people when we are delayed, after I eat my Quiznos Sub.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

Does your airline now charge for PA's or is it still free?

 

[General Lee]

Does your airline now charge for PA's or is it still free?

Do you still tip YOURSELF when you clean the schitter?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Superpilot92]

Do you still tip YOURSELF when you clean the schitter?


Bye Bye--General Lee

LMAO :laugh:

 

[Jack Schitt]

Do you still tip YOURSELF when you clean the schitter?


Bye Bye--General Lee

No, I'll give you a tip if you do a good job.

 

[328dude]

No, I'll give you a tip if you do a good job.

Sad that your entire week revolves around enough papers and ice.

Granted, when it came to the lavs, you guys were the best turd burglers around.

 

[B737 Guy]

Sad that your entire week revolves around enough papers and ice.

Granted, when it came to the lavs, you guys were the best turd burglers around.

LMAO!