PCL_128 said:
No one is making a point at all on your side. You all just continue to yell that "Bush lied, people died," and "No blood for oil!" How 'bout (and I know this is very revolutionary for you crazy libs) you try offering some other solutions to the problems instead of just b!tching and whining? I have yet to hear any liberal offer a solution on the Iraq war, yet you all continue to complain. Whenever a liberal is asked whether they think we should leave Iraq, they always say that "No, we can't just leave now. Bush already got us in there. We have to finish it now." Of course, they never say how they would be doing anything differently, they just continue to whine and shout slogans dreamed up by Micky Moore and Ted "I didn't drown that girl" Kennedy. So please Traumahawk, tell us in your great wisdom how you would fix everything in Iraq and fight the war on terror. I wait with great anticipation.
(First of all...this stereotypical crap you put forth, and your thought process, god help the people who fly with you. Really, I can't imagine some of this doesn't transfer over.)
NOW.....
Let me say this ONE MORE TIME...because you, and a few others are very, very, very slow.
We went to Iraq because Bush led everyone into thinking terrorists would get their hands on Iraq's W of MD!!!
THATS IT! PERIOD. PARAGRAPH.
WE FOUND NONE. Now, look at what we have. It's a mess, and it was an unplanned mess.
Heres couple couple quotes from the beggining of this false advertising campaign. Bush was having a lot of trouble selling the notion of going to Iraq before 9/11. Soon after, he had a reason. Much like Daley trying to close Meigs before and after 9/11.
BEFORE 9/11
24 Feb 2001 - [size=-1]In Cairo, Secretary of State Colin Powell declares: "He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors."[/size]
7 Aug 2001 - [size=-1]President George W Bush declares: "He's been a menace forever, and we will do -- he needs to open his country up for inspection, so we can see whether or not he's developing weapons of mass destruction."[/size]
AFTER 9/11- Pretty much, in terms of time, overnite,
and we see this...
26 Aug 2002 - [size=-1]Vice President
Dick Cheney declares: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us."[/size]
Nov 2002 - [size=-1]During a speech at the Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport, President George W Bush declares: "This is a man who told the world he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, promised he wouldn't have them. He's got them... He said he wouldn't have chemical weapons, he's got them."[/size]
But there were none. A lot of sand. A lot of dust. A lot of bull.
I am not the president. You aren't either...(thank god). Bush was elected as President. His job, is to do what is in the best interest of the American People. (so u don't have to come onto flightinfo and ask me what to do)
Iraq was not in the best interest of our Nation, but even if it HAD been an honest mistake, what the H$LL kind of strategy did the people, who's jobs are to come up with valid warplans, come up with???
They thought it would be a quick win. They were wrong.
Do you remember "Mission Accomplished"?? Do you? Well, not quite.
This is not ONLY your country sir. And it's not only Bush's or the people who supported him for reasons BEFORE this mess. We went there without the support of the country, and without the support of the world. And to put it plainly, I don't care WHERE you get your news.....uh, we got caught with our pants down. Mass bombings, shootings, an enemy we can't target or tactically conquer efficiently, in a form of inner city warfare we have never really experienced on this level. You think we were ready?? Turn on the TV, you think the scene you see was alllll part of the plan after "Mission Accomplished"??
Reread the reason I put at the top of this post. That is the reason we went. It wasn't a good reason for ALL of this. It's not enough to justify the outsome of this blunder. And on top of it, the guys in charge did a lousy job planning this scheme in the first place. The shortage of body armor only adds to the list.
And by the way, you know who is going to pay for all of this?? I bet you do.
When a Dem is elected and raises taxes to even begin trying to balance our budget(again), I'm sure you can rest assured when a Republican like Bush runs against him, the DEM will be hung for raising taxes and being financially responsible. You can bet the ranch. And around and around we go.
T-Hawk
A couple quotes from this wonderfully written artice:
But after more than two years it has finally dawned on the body politic that America was led into a war on a tissue of conceited deceits; a war expected to be fought on the cheap; a war for which the rationale has become an alibi du jour and a war with less of an exit strategy than a Chinese fire drill.
The American people didn't need another ``my dog ate the war plans'' political speech from its president Tuesday night. It's needed, for once, some honesty. If George Bush wanted an appropriate military setting to speak to the country, he had the perfect backdrop in his own backyard - the Vietnam Memorial, as poignant a tribute to bravery as you'll find in this country as well as the high price of quagmires, too.
