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VERY well put... It's the same as when I see guys wearing tattered uniforms, no hat (yes, it's what the public thinks a well paid pilot should look like), and worn out scuffed shoes.. If you want to get paid $250,000/year .. look and ACT the part.


isn't that the truth!
 
Thanks for the gate info Lee. I will log 1.3 hours today with a 5 hour duty day and earn over 1500 bucks flying to AMA today. Not only did I have breakfast with my kids (who I will hold a bit tighter this evening) this morning before school, I will have dinner with them also. The FO I am flying with is only earning 1000 bucks for the same. I will buy him and the crew coffee and with our family like spirit that five hours will only seem like a social hour.

Moral of the story Mr. Lee, to each their own. I love my life and you spend a good part of yours making certain that everybody is convinced that you love your life more than others and I am sincerely happy you do. Our world looks like it would have larger problems if you didn't.

Please give this a rest. Pretty please!!!

Great, you get to go to AMA for $1500. I did an awesome troop charter to Germany that had me dead head in First Class over, get a nice hotel, take troops somewhere I can't tell you, dead head back to Germany, and then another DH home, all for about $4500. Yeah, one leg, two great layovers with great German food and beer, and three first class dead heads. It was awesome, and it sure beat AMA, guaranteed!

I know you guys have a good deal, and you are paid well. My point mainly is that your group in general still doesn't treat the AT guys well, the pay disparity is ridiculous, and SWAPA should do something about that.

The reason I posted this thread is because of that fat Captain on those commercials, and how he used that line "We would NEVER do that." Well, never say never, right? This industry is changing fast, and just when you think your airline has a good thing going, things can change.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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No sh!t. I know its okay to like your company, but dammit man. Sounds like he would make love to mother D if he could.

No, that's not the case. I just like to point out the differnces between airlines, since most of them think that we would all LUV to do exactly what they do. The high pay is nice, but multiple leg days for 30 years, nah. It's good to have variety when flying. But tell them that, and you get an eye full on the screen. It's humorous.

Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Where is that portly SWA Captain in those "People's Court" commercials? He is probably huffing and puffing, running between gates during his 25 min turns. Someone that old should be enjoying his later years of flying by doing one leg a day to Hawaii, or somewhere interesting like Sydney. Oh well....



Bye Bye----General Lee

He's in Lubbock eating TexMex. You know you want some...;)
 
It's easy to get a rise out of the Corndogs

The question many have on this board is Why do you have this over powering need inside to try and annoy some people? What kind of satisfaction do you get by taking precious moments out of your life to do something so useless to anyone? Why do you live to act like this? Why do you lower yourself to such a low level? Do you ever read what you say and regret it after the fact? Some People absolutely loath you on this board. Why doesn't that bother you? Do you think that hiding behind a mask protects your character? Do you really think you are doing anything constructive with such embarrassing behavior? Would your family really be proud of your words on this forum? And actions?

Mine certainly wouldn't.
 
My point mainly is that your group in general still doesn't treat the AT guys well, the pay disparity is ridiculous, and SWAPA should do something about that.

This is disingenuous at best.

There at least a dozen other issues going on with different companies that should largely concern you more about our industry that are actively on this forum that you leave completely alone.

You have a grudge and this is the only way you can cope with this inner turmoil. What I find really sad, and I am serious about this, this hatred is affecting you so much more than anyone else and you don't even know what you are doing to yourself.
 
Not only did I have breakfast with my kids (who I will hold a bit tighter this evening) this morning before school, I will have dinner with them also.

Well said. I know we poke fun at eachother but after today's events arguing whose airline is better is kinda pointless.
 
The Hat, if worn properly, should never be worn indoors. Running up 16,000 posts on a forum, primarily whining like a schoolgirl most of the time, also does not look or ACT the part.

you've got two totally separate points in that sentence, I'll address the one aimed at my response. Wearing your hat in the terminal, in the sight of your passengers is a tradition that goes back long before you ever crawled into your first trainer... In the military, your cover is always on outdoors, but also indoors if you're in a large open air space.. i.e. an airport.
 
Well said. I know we poke fun at eachother but after today's events arguing whose airline is better is kinda pointless.

I don't even want to think about that... I want to put my head in the ground like an Ostrich... how do you even begin to rationalize something like that?

Prayers are with those poor parents of those little kids... that killer has a special reservation in the 9th ring of hell.
 
I don't even want to think about that... I want to put my head in the ground like an Ostrich... how do you even begin to rationalize something like that?

Prayers are with those poor parents of those little kids... that killer has a special reservation in the 9th ring of hell.

Amen. I've got 5 kids. I don't even want to watch the news. I can't imagine the pain.
 
This is disingenuous at best.

There at least a dozen other issues going on with different companies that should largely concern you more about our industry that are actively on this forum that you leave completely alone.

You have a grudge and this is the only way you can cope with this inner turmoil. What I find really sad, and I am serious about this, this hatred is affecting you so much more than anyone else and you don't even know what you are doing to yourself.

So, I can't point out an injustice? Really, the AT guys initially thought they won the lottery. A merger with SWA, what a GREAT DEAL. We all thought that. Instead, they were ganged up upon, and then seemingly punished for NOT taking the first deal. Even Scoreboard said they deserved what they got because they turned down the first deal. Well, will SWAPA take the first deal when upcoming negotiations take place for your next contract? I doubt it. Where was SWAPA when that second deal took place? I know they didn't represent them (ALPA did), but why would SWAPA allow 2 pay scales and two different groups for 4 years? (until 2015) That doesn't seem right. Does it to you?


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
So, I can't point out an injustice? Really, the AT guys initially thought they won the lottery. A merger with SWA, what a GREAT DEAL. We all thought that. Instead, they were ganged up upon, and then seemingly punished for NOT taking the first deal. Even Scoreboard said they deserved what they got because they turned down the first deal. Well, will SWAPA take the first deal when upcoming negotiations take place for your next contract? I doubt it. Where was SWAPA when that second deal took place? I know they didn't represent them (ALPA did), but why would SWAPA allow 2 pay scales and two different groups for 4 years? (until 2015) That doesn't seem right. Does it to you?


Bye Bye---General Lee

You know man it sucks. I hate to lose. But thats part of life. Some times you win and sometimes you lose. I'll be sure to teach my daughter that. There is a reason why you don't see that many AT pilots bitching up a storm anymore. It's not that our feelings changed suddenly, it's that it is unhealthy not to let stressful things go. So thanks for being in our corner, but if you really consider yourself a part of the the FI community, just let it go. Thankfully your airline has made some good decisions lately and your career is looking up. I have many friends at DAL and i'm extremely happy for them. For SWA and AT there are bigger fish to fry. Probably as an industry as a whole. When the new ATL domicile opens for SWA, they will share our crewroom in ATL. I hope that instead of some melee breaking out, we are able to move forward as a company.
 

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