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No is it as simple as DOH minus x....SL9 wasn't. Let's just wait for the deal as the devil will be in the details.
 
Shame on you SWA.

You should be embarrassed, if You're not, well that says even more about your "culture".
 
The fact Herb and Colleen showed up means the LUV is quite alive. Their devotion is to the 6,000 pilots that made SWA what it is, not the Valujet militants. Hence, protecting our culture. The same will be extended to you once or if you become SWA pilots.

If you go to arbitration, will they show up? They could give testimony, along with an AT ramper, all carrying equal weight to the 3 judges.


Godspeed!


OYS
 
Whackmaster at APC posted something. Take it for what it's worth.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/61661-airtran-southwest-aip-nutshell-12.html


Good luck to all.

I warned you and warned you. I begged you to brush up on SW History. Did you think Herb was the Court Jester? Business is what is is all about. Did the Fools at think SW was going to be held hostage by ALPO?

If only you had taken the time to read about and educate yourselves on our history. Now you face reality. Hopefully you will realize you have NO, ZERO, ZILCH leverage. Try and leverage your position and you too shall join the ranks of the Frontier folks.

Bus
 
If you go to arbitration, will they show up? They could give testimony, along with an AT ramper, all carrying equal weight to the 3 judges.


Godspeed!


OYS
Dude.... Or chick.... Or general lee, bye bye..... God speed, or whatever.... We all get it. We at SWA are screwed in arbitration. Do us all a favor, start a new thread entitled "SWA is screwed in arbitration, Godspeed", then bump it back to the top at least hourly. Then unless you have something different to say, stay off the rest of the threads, and save the rest of us the trouble of checking out new posts that turn out to be you saying we are screwed in arbitration..... AGAIN. So....... to recap.... We are screwed in arbitration, no ifs ands or buts. We are doomed to the burning in hell fate cast down upon us by the firey hand of the arbiters; doomed, in fact, to an eternal damnation of a binding list that will finally give us the just desserts that we so plainly deserve. Got it. Now, for the love of Pete.... Shut your ever luvin pie hole! Oh yeah, Godspeed!
 
Godspeed OY6 - NGFY!
 
Look at what our peers in this profession are saying. EVERYBODY sees what's going on here but the SWA pilots.

We have no peers, in order to find his equal, a Southwest Pilot is forced to talk to God.

The Almighty says, "Don't change the subject, just answer the fugkin' question."
 
We have no peers, in order to find his equal, a Southwest Pilot is forced to talk to God.

The sad thing is most of you believe it. I guess that's what comes from hiring so many guys from Luke in the '80s.
 
The sad thing is most of you believe it. I guess that's what comes from hiring so many guys from Luke in the '80s.

No, the sad part is you have no clue of the reference. You must be a thrill on a 4 day trip. :puke:
 
What you guys don't see on these web boards is that Gary, Mike and Herb are running a business. A very profitable business. They are very good at what they do. Trust me, culture is extremely inportant here, but being profitable and successful is right up there too. Herb has seen and done it all. This management knows the game VERY well. I have no doubt they know what's gonna happen before you or I know. Don't misjudge this company. one way or another, they will get what they need.......
 
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URLHere's the part that sickens me the most. Herb Kelleher and Colleen Barrett pay a little visit and they themselves threaten our MC with potential nonintegration if we don't accept the new schit sandwich that is laying infront of our MC. That part to me is so incredibly sad and disappointing. The two people who helped create the "Culture" are now threatening our MC. Flabbergasted folks. Simply flabbergasted.
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Someone has not been reading their history. When Herb shows up, it's over. He has the unique authority to do or say whatever the hell he wants and even GK and the rest of the Company BOD has to sit back and just agree and nod. Now, realize that I too (as a SWA guy) was pretty excited when the acquisition was announced. I thought (still think) that we can kick ass as a combined group. Also realize that most of the negotiations have been conducted by SWA-not SWAPA. We had pretty much resigned ourselves to arby too. With the exception of a few very vocal and un-professional SWA posters, NONE of us wish our future brothers-in-arms any ill will- at all.
That being said, I believe Herb and Co. is "teaching you and ALPA a lesson" that we SWA pilots have known for a long time. That is that subsequent offers will always be worse. Also, I can't help be think that SWA is setting the stage for future acquisitions. Are you listening B6?
 
However this shakes out please treat us with respect and I will do the same. At the end of the day I want to feed my family and enjoy coming to work...that's it.
 
carl, you have no fear that once this ass pain of a deal is complete, you will be in the family and we will protect you just like everyone else. We fight hard, we play harder.
 
Carl, old man, etc. All of you at airtran. Even if you don't want to be at swa. Welcome, coffee and beers flow freely. Seriously, welcome.
 
Looking forward to working at SWA and discussing "which boat is right for me, whether it is better to summer in the Hamptons or French Riviera, Yachting, how many houses is too many, Why the crash pad butler is such a poor cook, etc..."

bro, wake up. You are gonna be an airline pilot, albeit SWA. A new-hire one at that, if you get hired that is. You ain't a hedge fund manager or venture capitalist. Because if you were, you wouldn't be sending resumes to airlines, in order to work every Christmas for the first 6-10 years...instead you would be riding in the back of your G-V to Nevis on Christmas.

readjust yourself to summer at Sea World or Six Flags and keeping momma off Amazon. Boats, Yachts? WTF over. try renting a pontoon boat via mil discount at the local base Rec Club.

this is 2011. Not 1985. If you were enjoyed ??? 10 stock splits, huge stock gains (on those splits), etc etc, ok, yacht, maybe a ski boat. But dude this is 2011. I argue nobody hired 2011 forward at any airline will see the golden years of financial rewards of yesteryear. Sorry. Jumbo jets to Europe for 15 day layover, and banging young hot stews, while earning 200K, etc etc ad nauseum ? Nah dude, those days are gone.

by the way, you can pile the kids and wife into Hilton at crew rate, they have one close to Sea World SAT. That fat SWA check will help cover the $25 dollar Shamu Burgers at the cafe in the park and $7 cotton candy for junior. Airfare shouldn't be a problem, your base will be Oakland and the family can travel to SAT from Oakland via SWA. How many legs is that ? I don't know, maybe your future butler/conceirge service can tell you. Should be fun tho. Just tie the pit bull up outside your house in Oakland so all your sh1t don't get stolen while you are "summering".

obviously another Kit Darby subscriber....

(try Dave Ramsey next time)

Enjoy your summer. Keep that turbine PIC coming....don't let anyone keep you from your dream ! Remember, positive imagery. Imagine that interview call. Practice. Repeat.

prayer also makes people feel good, you can try that too...
 
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This management knows the game VERY well. I have no doubt they know what's gonna happen before you or I know. Don't misjudge this company. one way or another, they will get what they need.......

That's what is so hilarious about the Jr. SWA f/os here who profess to know the mind of the God King and his minions.

They really think he cares who inhabits the bottom of the seniority list. As long as the metal moves, he doesn't give a crap who is pulling the gear.
 
What Andy said is not true,the vast majority was ignored. The vast majority wanted to vote we did not want the mec to kill the deal,now we get this one which is not as good.Oh well. We will vote this in and Im looking forward to the job at swa and not looking in the rearview mirror wondering how much I lost on AIP1. See ya around the patch.
 
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If that's true, then obviously, the "vast majority" forgot to communicate with their MEC reps.
 

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