Southwest could lose 121 Certificate

[Ty Webb]

Sure seems, after reading volumes on Guadalupe Holdings/SWA/Airtran, that this deal was structured by Airtran and SWA to alleviate the need to ever merge work groups.....I would guess that both Airtran and SWA lawyers worked the issues surrounding the Airtran cba, the SWA cba and whatever minor roll that the Bond/McCaskill legislation would have on this acquisition and structured the deal to avoid any potential road blocks

Read the actual merger document. GH is wholly-owned by SWA and therefore is subject to the restrictions in the AAI Pilots CBA as well as McCaskill-Bond and Allegheny- Piedmont

 

[RedDogC130]

We will gladly staple the GH holding pilots below you....great we are done.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Honestly, this IS the easiest SLI for an arbitrator:

Put the pre-1992 SWA pilots on the list. Ratio the rest. Done deal. No bump/no flush. All subsequent bid openings awarded using the new seniority list.

There you go.

 

[tico]

Read the actual merger document. GH is wholly-owned by SWA and therefore is subject to the restrictions in the AAI Pilots CBA as well as McCaskill-Bond and Allegheny- Piedmont

Not trying to doubt you bro, but I have read that...And all of the 8K and all the other hits on google that relate to the subject.....GH aquires AT. AT becomes AT inc. and is the surviving company.....SWA is the financier and that is about it.....Nothing against GK and SWA but I would not trust them any further than you can throw them.....Remember, this whole deal was hatched between them and the slimy pilot hating pricks that you work for....Not sure any of them care where you end up....

 

[Full of LUV]

Not trying to doubt you bro, but I have read that...And all of the 8K and all the other hits on google that relate to the subject.....GH aquires AT. AT becomes AT inc. and is the surviving company.....SWA is the financier and that is about it.....Nothing against GK and SWA but I would not trust them any further than you can throw them.....Remember, this whole deal was hatched between them and the slimy pilot hating pricks that you work for....Not sure any of them care where you end up....

I really can't believe that SWAPA would push to keep the pilot groups separate. Afterall, you know the pre-92 pilots at SWA are pushing for merger, probably the next 10 years of SWA hires as well, only the junior SWA pilots would want separate operations, and over time, if significantly cheaper, the AAI side would open all kinds of problems for the SWA group with them switching to 800's and AAI planning on all those deliveries.... one would think not a great deal even for SWAPA.....

 

[SWA/FO]

Afterall, you know the pre-92 pilots at SWA are pushing for merger, probably the next 10 years of SWA hires as well

Wanta bet? This is too funny!

 

[dedazo]

Smoking the devil's lettuce again...huh?

 

[clippyrip]

How about sick call? I would say EVERY NWA pilot likes the new sick call policy--AKA call in, and not give a note. How about new bases? How many FNWA guys now are based out West and down South? How about Greenslips? FNWA guys are cleaning up on that one. And it seems PLENTY of FNWA pilots voted for the joint contract. Whatever, dude.


Bye Bye--General Lee

You need to tip your dealer.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Rebel Rouser!

Rebel rouser? You mean like GL? He's a rebel. Or rabble? Or Rubble? Barney's a Rubble.

 

[Ty Webb]

Not trying to doubt you bro, but I have read that...And all of the 8K and all the other hits on google that relate to the subject.....GH aquires AT. AT becomes AT inc. and is the surviving company.....SWA is the financier and that is about it.....

The key is that GH is a wholly-owned subsidiary of SWA, which makes it subject to covenants in our CBA that require a merger of operations and seniority. It also prohibits selling off bits and pieces during that time.

 

[Ty Webb]

Honestly, this IS the easiest SLI for an arbitrator:

Put the pre-1992 SWA pilots on the list. Ratio the rest. Done deal. No bump/no flush. All subsequent bid openings awarded using the new seniority list.

There you go.

I wouldn't be surprised. I think there would be some allowance for the fact that more SWA pilots will retire soon (to favor current SWA FO's) and some allowance for the 50 orders on the AAI side (to favor current AAI FO's).

 

[say again]

This is becoming East vs. West part 2. Everyone loses!!!

 

[Secret Squirrel]

I wouldn't be surprised. I think there would be some allowance for the fact that more SWA pilots will retire soon (to favor current SWA FO's) and some allowance for the 50 orders on the AAI side (to favor current AAI FO's).

At least you are not doing any SLI negotiating on a public forum.