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Southwest is seeking control of ATA


By Ted Evanoff
[email protected]
December 14, 2004

Southwest Airlines would take almost complete control of ATA Airlines under a bold proposal discussed Monday with ATA and its creditors.

If a bankruptcy judge approves, Southwest would oust ATA senior executives, inject $47 million in cash, take a 35 percent stake in the Indianapolis carrier and name new senior managers who would quickly work to cut labor costs 15 percent to 20 percent, according to a draft copy of Southwest's plans prepared for ATA's bankruptcy auction.

The draft copy, obtained Monday night by The Indianapolis Star, is part of Southwest's $100 million bid for six ATA gates at Chicago Midway. The document gives the first indication that Southwest is attempting to win the backing of major ATA creditors over a rival $89.3 million bid ATA and AirTran Airways of Orlando negotiated early this fall.

Under Southwest's proposal, creditors would be offered new shares in ATA and a hand in choosing its board members.

Approval of the Southwest plan would appear to hand ATA Chairman J. George Mikelsons a significant defeat.

He not only would lose his position as chairman, he would also lose control of the direction of the airline he founded in 1972 and he might lose most of his 69 percent stake in ATA.
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Mikelsons, 67, set out to scale down his 7,700-employee airline by filing for bankruptcy protection Oct. 26. The Latvian emigrant intended for ATA to emerge from bankruptcy as a smaller carrier centered on Indianapolis using cash from the AirTran deal.

Lawyers for ATA, lenders and creditors are expected to finish a two-day meeting today in Indianapolis that was set up to review the bids placed by Southwest and AirTran for the Midway operations. Southwest's proposal was discussed Monday.

The draft copy, labeled a "proposed (joint) plan of reorganization," is a blueprint for how ATA would be run after it leaves bankruptcy.

The copy was prepared by Southwest ahead of last Friday's bid deadline.

U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Basil Lorch III is scheduled to pick a winning bid Thursday after hearing recommendations from ATA and its creditors, which include an array of aircraft lenders such as Boeing Capital and General Electric Capital Corp.

Southwest entered the bid process, however, with an offer that could satisfy creditors interested in being repaid.

The draft copy would give creditors new stock in what is called a "New ATA," a common tactic in bankruptcy reorganizations.

It would also earmark $85 million for a federal agency, the Air Transportation Stabilization Board, that guaranteed $140 million in ATA loans.

In an industry riddled by fare wares and high fuel prices, Southwest ranks among the strongest carriers, financially. It is known as a fast, efficient operator that often flies from second-tier airports to avoid direct competition with major airlines -- and has been consistently profitable.

Lawyers for creditors and officials at Southwest and America West Airlines could not be reached for comment Monday night. AirTran and an ATA attorney declined comment.

AirTran proposed buying all 14 gates at Midway and would funnel passengers from its Atlanta and Baltimore hubs to ATA long-distance flights. As part of that proposal, the state of Indiana and the city of Indianapolis provided ATA with a $15.5 million emergency loan on the condition that ATA preserve at least 1,000 of its 2,300 Indianapolis jobs.

Southwest's offer for six ATA gates at Midway startled industry analysts because it included a code-share provision -- for only the second time in Southwest's history.

This would allow ATA to sell Southwest tickets to travelers who use both airlines on one trip, such as a passenger going to Indianapolis from Fort Worth, Texas, flying the first leg on Southwest and changing at Midway to an ATA flight.

Because the ticketing requires a complicated computer connection between the airlines, it works against long-held Southwest principles.

"If you read the gospel according to (Southwest Chairman) Herb Kelleher, it has three books: Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity," said David Field, Americas editor for the trade journal Airline Business.

"This is part of a defensive move" by Southwest, Field said, noting Southwest is offering the arrangement on fewer than 10 routes out of Midway. "They saw it as the only way to match what AirTran was offering" in code-sharing.

"If Southwest offers code-sharing, I understand that it could be very valuable for ATA," said ATA attorney Stephen Claffey before Monday's review began. "ATA has enormously profitable routes if they are properly supported."
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It early in the week and things are already getting hot! Let's see GM get out of this one!
 
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Sounds like maybe a good deal for ATA pilots out there if there is tighter coordination between the airlines.... Why would SWA only take a 35% stake? Are they doing this to enusre access to the gates (political move to appease politicians wanting to preserve jobs)? Should be interesting...
 
On Your Six said:
Sounds like maybe a good deal for ATA pilots out there if there is tighter coordination between the airlines.... Why would SWA only take a 35% stake? Are they doing this to enusre access to the gates (political move to appease politicians wanting to preserve jobs)? Should be interesting...
I believe this is just the "opening bid" and is likely to change as the "auction" continues through the week. We will see how bad who wants what and what they are will to do/pay.
 
They are bidding for 6 gates.. and a code share..? Will FL get to play with the remaining gates? Or will the other 8 be utilized by multiple carriers ?

Joe.. see thier 100 and raise em another 5..... what the H*LL... ! I guess the pretzel packs are gonna get a bit smaller .....
 
SWA should just buy ATA and get it over with. Cool, a SWA 757! Even better, an L 1011!
 
mnboyev said:
They are bidding for 6 gates.. and a code share..? Will FL get to play with the remaining gates? Or will the other 8 be utilized by multiple carriers ?
Or will ATA keep them????????????
 
Yeah !! that would be good for TZ... But what about the cost saving program? Would this mean downsizing.... ie furloughs.. I know it is too early to tell.

I guess we'll know on the 16th.
 
Under the WN plan, ATA keeps the other gates and WN will codeshare to 9 cities to start and increase that over an 8 to 10 year period. This is WN's way to go to LGA, DCA, SFO, and other high density airport as well as Hawaii and Mexico and eventually Europe. It has only a net loss of a few aircraft ovet the next 12 months with plans to INCREASE the fleet size of ATA.

WN realized the domestic market will be tapped out soon and now, they are being very proactive to ensure themselves as a future worldwide carrier without the risk of new aircraft, ops specs and training and all the other expenses associated with starting ETOPS and Intl authority. This deal also protects the jobs of ATA pilots and other employee groups.

It look like we have a winner as the forcasted deal, over a time period, is worth over TRIPLE what the AAI deal is worth and it keeps ATA a viable entity, only takes 6 gates and protects the ATSB and Unsecred creditors the best way possible...by keeping the Aircraft flying! It also removes current senior management and replaces them with a COMPETANT management team.

WN has already worked an arrangement with the aircraft lessors, the city of Chicago, the ATSB and the rest of the Unsecured crditors. They REALLY did their homework. I don't feel that AAI has the financial horsepower to come close to this one as it would REALLY expose them by both a HUGE debt load and direct cometition with WN.

This, if approved, will give the employees of ATA a second chance where their current management and the AAI deal will not. I think we may have a winning bid!

Let's hope this is the one!
 
you must be in the room or have the room bugged to know that WN has already talked to the A/C peeps, the city and there second cousin. If this is approved you have know idea if this will give ATA a second chance. You know what you read on the computer and we all know that this is the most accurate stuff out there.


If it does get approved I do hope that it makes for a better more trim ATA but to say for sure w/out all the info iws just getting your hopes hi.

good luck to all ATA folks however it turns out.
 
Gary Kelly is a genus. This is also great for ATA as it keeps them operating at MDW with ATA employees. Codeshare? Yet another way to get to Dallas, either Love or DFW!
 

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