So who's going to the ASA LEC meeting on Thursday?

[WWEfan]

ever heard of the term levity? everyone there chuckled except you apparently. I'm glad John and Chris are in there rather than you since you seem to not have common sense. Awesome-er dude....go back to sleep.

Ohplease, I noticed your signature with the UPS slogan. Are you a short-timer at ASA?

 

[Tomct]

Ohplease, I noticed your signature with the UPS slogan. Are you a short-timer at ASA?

He WISHES!!!!

 

[GeekMaster]

What concerns me the most is that everything hinges on scope right now. EVERYTHING! The answers I heard will not have good outcomes without good scope for the company.

Once labor costs at ASA become higher than SW and the airplane swap (200's for 700-900's) begins to occur, the only thing that will save our bacon is scope. The problem with scope is that companies seeming continue to find ways around it.

I was interested in the fact that many of the questions came from this board. While some guys will look down their noses at this, at the very least those who are here questioning the process, are involved with the process.

Since a single list or any other effective scope isn't for sale, you hit the nail on the head with the only effective scope we have left when you said "once our costs are higher". This is why I have advocated the importance of being cost competitive. We don't have to be cheaper, we just have to be close enough to override the costs of moving stuff. Once the retire and award program begins in full, the cost of moving assets drops dramatically but it's still there. It is my honest opinion that if we settled in at or near SKW on the 50 with COLA and current rate with COLA on the 70 and became a lot less militant, we would actually be worth keeping around at full strength and even a viable option for new flying.

On the other hand, If you were a successful business man with a 30+ year history of successful airline management who needs to answer to your stock holders in regards to profits and you had two labor groups; one that works with you, appreciates the rewards you give them and helps you out and another unionized militant group of chest thumpers who are intent on burning the place down unless you pay them 5% more than the happy group; which one are you going to try to utilize most?

 

[SSDD]

Everything really hinges on the SkyWest pilots organizing. Wish they would.

Don't count on it. What ever you need to do, don't plan on Skywest going ALPA. Even with the lastest fiasco where the SAPA/management people went around the SAPA president, there are plenty people who still defend SAPA. Incredible!

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Don't count on it. What ever you need to do, don't plan on Skywest going ALPA. Even with the lastest fiasco where the SAPA/management people went around the SAPA president, there are plenty people who still defend SAPA. Incredible!

Yeah, it's really sad to see how many people here choose to keep their heads buried in the sand, even when the latest SAPA fiasco gave them a good view of what really goes on around here...