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Very sorry to hear of the furlough at ASA. You guys seem like you worked your tails off just to get a swift kick in the nads.

Just wanted to hear some of the predictions for what will happen now at Skywest? I feel that with a furlough at ASA, we will be next on the list very shortly. They are working on LOAs and part time pilot lines but I don't think that will do much to shrink the over populated pilot group. I would guess 150 pilots will soon be kicked to the street (me included). Hope I am wrong...here is to going to bed another night not knowing what tomorrow brings...:beer:
 
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Brad Holt mentioned at Thanksgiving in the crew lounge that Skywest was more over staffed than us at ASA. Now I am not sure what Jerry and the boys will do for yall, but things sure don't look rosy over here anymore.
 
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I predict nothing will happen at Skywest.
 
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It is very simple. There was no way on Earth that Jerry was going to allow SKW to furlough a single pilot before it happened at ASA. End of story. He made sure of that because he's trying to prove that ALPA has no power and he doesn't want it on property. Now that we have furloughed first, I'd expect something to happen over there in the next two months. My opinion only.
 
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Jorgy50 said:
It is very simple. There was no way on Earth that Jerry was going to allow SKW to furlough a single pilot before it happened at ASA. End of story. He made sure of that because he's trying to prove that ALPA has no power and he doesn't want it on property. Now that we have furloughed first, I'd expect something to happen over there in the next two months. My opinion only.
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The word is that there's a lot more flying coming our way but it won't be DAL flying. I'm not sure what restrictions ASA has with DAL, but ASA has to beable to codeshare with other carriers to remain strong. I would think that Jerry and Brad are working on that but then maybe not cause Skywest is Jerry's baby.
 
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Erlanger said:
The word is that there's a lot more flying coming our way but it won't be DAL flying. I'm not sure what restrictions ASA has with DAL, but ASA has to beable to codeshare with other carriers to remain strong. I would think that Jerry and Brad are working on that but then maybe not cause Skywest is Jerry's baby.
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ASA can fly for whoever they want. The only problem, and this is a slight one, is that a good chunk of ASA's airplanes are owned by or leased from Delta. Obviously those airplanes will not be flying for a competitor.

If ASA acquired more airplanes, they could grow to other airlines. However, I think the furloughs were an admission that there will be no new business.
 
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Maybe overstaffing is going to be a problem afterall at Skywest. SAPA today announced that they and Skywest are working on a voluntary LOA and a part-time option for pilots. Not sure the part-time option will be a good thing. Could further erode the profession. I bet they offer part time with no benefits. Can it get any worst?
 
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Erlanger said:
Could further erode the profession. I bet they offer part time with no benefits. Can it get any worst?
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I'm sorry to be the grammar police but the irony of your statement is pretty funny.
 
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Very sorry to hear of the furlough at ASA. You guys seem like you worked your tails off just to get a swift kick in the nads.
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I'm one of the 80 at ASA.

I'm glad it was only 80. I figured it would be a lot worse than that.

Thank God we have the management we do...from what I hear, the people that used to be in charge here would not be doing nearly as good a job at helping our airline cope with the present challenges.

Personally, I'm glad to work for the folks calling the shots at ASA and have been nothing but impressed with everything I've seen from our leadership.

They're doing a good job.

I dunno' about Skywest's options for dealing with overstaffing...but in the long term, Skywest Inc. looks to be in pretty healthy financial shape to outlast some of our weaker competitors in the industry.

2009 is probably going to see more than one regional airline shutting it's doors.

Definitely not an industry for the faint of heart!
 
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johnpeace said:
I'm one of the 80 at ASA.

I'm glad it was only 80. I figured it would be a lot worse than that.

Thank God we have the management we do...from what I hear, the people that used to be in charge here would not be doing nearly as good a job at helping our airline cope with the present challenges.

Personally, I'm glad to work for the folks calling the shots at ASA and have been nothing but impressed with everything I've seen from our leadership.

They're doing a good job.

I dunno' about Skywest's options for dealing with overstaffing...but in the long term, Skywest Inc. looks to be in pretty healthy financial shape to outlast some of our weaker competitors in the industry.

2009 is probably going to see more than one regional airline shutting it's doors.

Definitely not an industry for the faint of heart!
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Man you hit the nail on the head. Old mgmt. would be saying, "It's Delta's fault. They didn't give us the resources we needed. They promised and didn't deliver....bs bs bs......" We've got straight shooters now and I believe in them. I'm sorry for all the bs this industry and you are about to go through. If it were up to me, all I can say is things wouldn't be exactly as they are now. Hang in there, and i can say this, if ASA if furloughing, things truly are in deeeeep $hit.

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look for SkyWest to seek to reduce pilot positions in the neighborhood of 250, first by VLAs, allowing for part-time lines, etc. I'm guessing if that doesn't produce the required number, furloughs could be next. I'd say we'll know by March or so.
 
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Don't like that one? How about "I don't get mad, I get ignorelisty." Take your pick. Have a nice life.
 
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I don't think March would be a very wise date to furlough at OO unless the summer schedules were horrendously worse than planned. Summer flying would only the help the staffing situation. That and miniscule attritrion would make the fall of 2009 a more suspect time for furloughs imo.
 
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The furloughs you are seeing now are to be in line for the summer staffing. DAL has finalized their summer sked. SKW and ASA know what they will be doing.
Just remember ASA went from voluntary furloughs to the official deal in less than a month!
 
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Delta only has OO's flying finalized through Febuary. Not this summer.
 
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