Skywest to phase out ASA. Could this be true

[scarlet]

Oh yeah lets retrain 2000 pilots and lay off 2000 that are already trained---NOW that is MAGMT. that I would be proud of...

Heck that decision sounds like a how Delta does business.....

Stop posting these dumba** post before you think...You sound real smart. Well most of ASA pilots are going to Airtran anyways....

 

[XRMEFLYER]

.... Where does skywest plan to get pilots to fly the ASA routes? ....

You can't be serious.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Oh yeah lets retrain 2000 pilots and lay off 2000 that are already trained---NOW that is MAGMT. that I would be proud of...

Heck that decision sounds like a how Delta does business.....

Stop posting these dumba** post before you think...You sound real smart. Well most of ASA pilots are going to Airtran anyways....

Lets see,
Take a pilot group most who are off of probation and making $35.00+ per hour and replace them with new hires at $19.02hr. Lessee, $19.02 X 2000 x 800hrs a year= $30,432000+/- vs $35.00 X 2000 X 800hrs a year= $56,000,000. 26mil will buy alot of training and other sundried expenses. SKYW is run by bean counters, do not forget it!
Do not feel bad though if this happens it will be slow and only semi-obvious. You will probabally feel good since the new pay agreement will give us a whole 1.2% and the ability to fly the whole CRJ type fleet.
You will be spared that indignity at least.
I think for the first time in a long time SKYW has made an error in judgment though. This pay proposal will bite them in the ass.
PBR

 

[jehtplane]

Besides, that wouldn't be fair to the current SkyWest employees. "Our company is doing great so we bought your company...only now I just slid down 287 spots on the seniority list. I was going to upgrade next year now I'm another 3 years away." All that would do is created mucho resentment towards the ASA guys/gals and it would be terrible for overall company morale. You don't want to alienate your current employees who have made your airline what it is today.

Whoa boy, You are a wholly owned subsidiary of Skywest, INC. The same as ASA!
You boys keep telling us to watch out, I would not want to be working for ASA, well lets reverse this, what is to stop Skywest, INC from transferring assets to ASA! I will tell you, ONE LIST. Get ALPA on the property over there and lets prevent the whipsaw before it happens , it can happen to you guys too, NOT JUST ASA. You are just as vulnerable as we are.

PBR that was a bunch of wacked out math. What happens when people start year two of longevity, do you fire them and start over as well. That was pretty stupid!

 

[RocketDog]

Oh yeah lets retrain 2000 pilots and lay off 2000 that are already trained---NOW that is MAGMT. that I would be proud of...

Heck that decision sounds like a how Delta does business.....

Stop posting these dumba** post before you think...You sound real smart. Well most of ASA pilots are going to Airtran anyways....

Unfortunately, SkyWest has already been down this road before and it worked beautifully for management. At that time, (1998) SkyWest bought WestAir's assets and left the pilots to fend for themselves on the streets. Of course, a large number of those pilots were re-hired at SkyWest, as new-hires. The net result was you had the exact same pilots flying the exact same airplanes, only they started over on the bottom of the seniority list, making new-hire wages.

 

[LDavid]

If memory serves, didn't TWA do extremely well after they were bought by AMR?

 

[jehtplane]

Unfortunately, SkyWest has already been down this road before and it worked beautifully for management. At that time, (1998) SkyWest bought WestAir's assets and left the pilots to fend for themselves on the streets. Of course, a large number of those pilots were re-hired at SkyWest, as new-hires. The net result was you had the exact same pilots flying the exact same airplanes, only they started over on the bottom of the seniority list, making new-hire wages.

Just a little difference between westair or whatever, never even heard of them and us, just a little. But if that is what makes you sleep better at night is thinking you are getting just ASA assets and then asking the pilots to start over again at the bottom of your seniority list, then sleep well my friends.

 

[jehtplane]

If memory serves, didn't TWA do extremely well after they were bought by AMR?

Flame

 

[Tomct]

Some of these people at Skywest are making some very stupid comments!

Jetplane...you may have something there! The skywest crews could be swung the other way, who knows. One thing is for sure, there will definately be a whipsaw unless skywest puts ALPA or some other union on property and get these lists merged!

Remember guys....it could happen to you just as easily as US!!!!

 

[79%N1]

You SKW guys make yourselves sound like the biggest bunch of job-poaching whore$ I have ever heard. If it came to a vote, you would vote me out of my job in a heartbeat to get a couple more 70 seaters and get your 15 month upgrade. Meanwhile, I've been here 4 years, am nowhere near upgrade and will lose my house and most of my belongings if that happened!! GLAD TO BE ABOARD! With friends like you guys.............

 

[ASAFOE120]

I have to say that I was feeling pretty good about being part of the Skywest family until I started reading this thread. Do the majority of Skywest pilots want management to do away with ASA so they can get our planes and gates? I hope not. Please tell me that some of yall are glad that we're here and want to make the best of our situation!!!

ASAFO

 

[rtmcfi]

Easy fellas......
I don't think anyone at SkyWest wants your jobs, planes, bases, anything. The folks at SkyWest simply don't want to go backwards. Hopefully, you can all move ahead. I hope ASA gets the contract they deserve, and that the SkyWest people end up with something similar. In order for this to happen, SkyWest is going to need to get a union, pronto.

 

[79%N1]

Easy fellas......
I don't think anyone at SkyWest wants your jobs, planes, bases, anything. The folks at SkyWest simply don't want to go backwards. Hopefully, you can all move ahead. I hope ASA gets the contract they deserve, and that the SkyWest people end up with something similar. In order for this to happen, SkyWest is going to need to get a union, pronto.

Not what I'm hearing.........All I hear is "I want mine" and the underlying glee that SKYW may take ASA's assets. 'Yea, me!!!!!!!! I'll upgrade in 1 year!!!! Sorry, but in my book, thats dispicable.

 

[Yank McCobb]

All I hear is "I want mine" ... 'Yea, me!!!!!!!! I'll upgrade in 1 year!!!! Sorry, but in my book, thats dispicable.

Welcome to today's world. It is not just the airlines or the regionals or even the "upgrade, upgrade, upgrade" myopia that nearly EVERY regional FO suffers from.

It is simply a reflection of the "gotta have it and gotta have it now...me, my, mine" attitude of GenX.

 

[dmbfarmer]

I have to say that I was feeling pretty good about being part of the Skywest family until I started reading this thread. Do the majority of Skywest pilots want management to do away with ASA so they can get our planes and gates? I hope not. Please tell me that some of yall are glad that we're here and want to make the best of our situation!!!

ASAFO

All yall are welcome at SkyWest, having flown with several members of the "family", I haven't met anyone that wants to take your jobs and steal from your plate. We are in the works to vote ALPA on the property and if it happens (I hope the hell it does) we can work more easily together. It doesn't have to be a blood bath nobody wants that. We all need to be level headed and think long term for EVERYONE. It's going to get worse before it gets better, but we can all make it better if we can become one. (That sounds kinda angelic I think I heard singing and saw the heavens open.) The point is the majority of us at SkyWest are level headed and see past the flame. We hope your pilot group feels the same. Give us a chance to do the right thing. If we don't you have every right to rape and pillage.
dmbfarmer
yes Im dumb and I farm, but that might be obvious to everyone else!

Ps I have a friend that works for ASA, will you help me find him? You can PM me if your willing. Thanks