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Erlanger

Erlanger

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You heard it here first folks. Skywest to buy Mesa in the next few weeks and to try and buy ExpressJet again.
 
Buying Mesa is just plan stupid. Buying XJT would be managements endorsement for one-list SkyWest, ASA, and XJT. Over 6500 unionized/unified pilots sounds good to me, but I do not think it sounds good to Inc. management.
 
Go ahead and try to buy xjt, but the lists will either be merged or it won't happen.
 
As a SkyWest pilot I would welcome Mesa and XJet with merged lists. I think sgu doesn't care anymore about alpa, just loves the infighting and even with the huge downgrade in our healthcare and everything else we just get angry but don't do anything about it.

From our forum someone "heard from mx" : we have purchased (or purchased the leases for) Mesa's 22 700s and 38 900s and their associated flying. They are trying to round up mx personnel to inaugurate the PHX mx base.
 
BHopper88 said:
As a SkyWest pilot I would welcome Mesa and XJet with merged lists. I think sgu doesn't care anymore about alpa, just loves the infighting and even with the huge downgrade in our healthcare and everything else we just get angry but don't do anything about it.

From our forum someone "heard from mx" : we have purchased (or purchased the leases for) Mesa's 22 700s and 38 900s and their associated flying. They are trying to round up mx personnel to inaugurate the PHX mx base.
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Some of those planes are already at the Skywest hangar in SLC and a couple are already online with Mesa registry still on them.
 
Don't you think that Inc would be more concerned with lowering its overall costs than to keep its Skywest pilots the "purebloods" of no union? While they may not like the idea of a unionized work force in each labor group, it's fair to say they're more concerned with the bottom line. Should be interesting to watch and see....
 
Bako Cap said:
Buying Mesa is just plan stupid. Buying XJT would be managements endorsement for one-list SkyWest, ASA, and XJT. Over 6500 unionized/unified pilots sounds good to me, but I do not think it sounds good to Inc. management.
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Buying just Mesa's assets is genius.
 
Cpt Oveur said:
Don't you think that Inc would be more concerned with lowering its overall costs than to keep its Skywest pilots the "purebloods" of no union? While they may not like the idea of a unionized work force in each labor group, it's fair to say they're more concerned with the bottom line. Should be interesting to watch and see....
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From my perspective, the presence of ALPA at ASA hasn't done anything to prevent Skywest, Inc from running that airline exactly the way they want to.

- understaffed for lean, efficient operation
- PBS
- red arrow days all month
- inadequate reserve coverage

I mean...what would they be doing to run leaner/make more profits without ALPA representing the pilot group?

Is it really any different?
 
Yes Jerry found out the ASA union is so weak he has made them his bitch so he is not so worried about it anymore I think. Skywest has bought Expressjet and I am surprised it has taken this long to hit the boards. Now why buy a bunch of old 50 seat aircraft I'm not sure unless it's to get at the contracts in hopes Continental relaxes scope (please don't do it CO). The Express scope requires the list to be merged, that is what killed the deal last time Jerry tried to buy them. But with the new voting rules, the union might be on Skywest property anyway.
 
Yup... and Skywest was also buying Mesaba too. Even up until the night before it was announced that Pinnacle was buying us! I'll believe it when I see it.
 
Actually, last time around Jerry had no intention of actually buying Expressjet. The goal was to get them out of SLC and LAX; end their DLC flying while assisting CAL in bending them over to renegotiate their contract. He accomplished all that and for his troubles CAL gave SKYW $8 million, for "termination of agreement". With the merger pending it also helped establish a good relationship with CAL management. If SKYW buys Expressjet now it will be part of a larger deal tied to long term contracts and other tangible benefits similar to the ASA deal. How it would play out in the long run is anybodies guess.
 
Erlanger said:
Some of those planes are already at the Skywest hangar in SLC and a couple are already online with Mesa registry still on them.
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I have only seen 200's with Mesa tail numbers and I suspect that we either just bought them really cheap or got very favorable leases on them.
 
flap operator said:
Yup... and Skywest was also buying Mesaba too. Even up until the night before it was announced that Pinnacle was buying us! I'll believe it when I see it.
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Actually Jerry said recently that Skywest wanted Mesaba and out bid everyone but Delta didn't want Skywest to have a monopoly on the flying.
 
I guess we'll see what happens. It's nice to be "wanted" I suppose. I would have rather it been Skywest over Pinnacle, but they didn't ask the employees.
 
You guys mean Skywest is not going to buy Mesa and Expressjet? I thought the title looked official enough. FI strikes again!
 
I hope you guys buy us and we can get one merged list for all (SKW, XJT, ASA, MESA) with an industry leading contract. We at XJT will not be waiving our scope requirements.
 
SkyWest Inc wil buy ExpressJet and merge them with ASA.

SkyWest airlines will buy Mesas aircraft, bring over many of their pilots, some will be brought on as captains but will be at the bottomof the list.
 
CFIT said:
SkyWest Inc wil buy ExpressJet and merge them with ASA.

SkyWest airlines will buy Mesas aircraft, bring over many of their pilots, some will be brought on as captains but will be at the bottomof the list.
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What's the source for all this info?
 
If anyone buys XJT they have to have a single pilot seniority integration. Skywest Inc. can't just put XJT and ASA together, it has to be the whole pilot group, XJT scope applies to the holding company as well as the actual airline.
 
Whydoitry said:
If anyone buys XJT they have to have a single pilot seniority integration. Skywest Inc. can't just put XJT and ASA together, it has to be the whole pilot group, XJT scope applies to the holding company as well as the actual airline.
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Skywest Inc. is not an airline, it's a holding company. ASA and Skywest Airlines are two wholly owned subsidiaries run independent of one another.
 
Dubya said:
A Jamaican hooker.
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In order to establish credibility we need to know if she does voodoo. If she does then I believe her!

Gotta go for a swim! Peace out!
 
maxcackel said:
Is it possible since Skywest INC is a holding Comany and not an airline they can bypass Expressjet scope?
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Their contract would be binding to the airline they merge with, not the holding company.

Only their pilot group through the MEC can agree to something different.
 

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