SkyWest Pilots vote No

[Puck Mugger]

Well done to the SkyWest Pilots.

Next up: ALPA drive. Spread the word. SkyWest.Alpa.org

 

[General Lee]

genral,
You can talk about our internal problems till you are blue in the face, but it still won't make your situation any better. seriously...get another hobby besides ripping on us "lower class" pilots. naming names on flightinfo just ain't cool.

Mookie

Naming names? I name Lawson and Ford at Comair all the time about their RJDC rants. I said the first name of your chief pilot, not his last. He sounds like he is representing you guys "Really well"---NOT. Do you think there was a conflict of interest having a SAPA negotiator (someone negotiating AGAINST the company) placed as the chief pilot (a management stooge) of your biggest base? You don't? Hey, don't ask any questions and maybe it will go away......I know you want people to think your airline has NO problems.... But hey, you voted no and we will see what your company does next. And, you're right about my company having problems, but my situation really isn't that bad. My ATL to HNL 6 day trips should be nice this Winter.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Mookie]

I'm not based there...and have never heard anything about the guy good or bad. I'm sure that there are several AlPa reps at other companies that became Chief Pilots as well...in fact, I know it happened at PSA while I was there, and it will probably happen again here someday. If you feel that is' necesary to air it...it's a free country. It's also my right to point out that's it's in bad taste.

Have fun in HNL...I'll be kicking it on the slopes in DEN...to each his own.
Mookie

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Tell that SLC chief pilot of yours, Tony, he can suk it! According to my SkyWest buddy he is a real tool. I think it is great that the chief pilot of the largest base at SkyWest used to be a SAPA negotiator. Conflict of interest? Nah. Good job for voting no. What will the company do now? You already agreed to fly planes up to 99 seats for 50 seat wages. They will probably tell you all to SUK IT.


Bye Bye--General Lee

General Tool,
Since I usually disagree with you totally, I will open up with this YOU ARE RIGHT. You are starting to get it, SKYW formed SAPA as a communication tool for managment to talk to the pilot group, they pay more than 600k a year to run SAPA(or so I hear). Now you see how it works, you work real hard as a SAPA player, deliver something of real value(70 for 50 seat pay), bingo Cheif pilot job drops into your lap, reward for services rendered. They tell us to "SUK IT" every time they issue the paychecks, and I bet they snicker about how easy it was to pull the pilots sphincters over their eyes.
SAPA dispenses the kool-aid via state of the art Slurpee/Frostee machines that are suspiciously similar to the frozen margarita machines at many fine mexican food eateries. For a measly 600K they get tremendous value in terms of workrule/policy manual screwings.
I think for the first time SKYW mgmt has made a very large tactical mistake, in their greed to acquire larger airframes they agreed to take furloughed UAL pilots, these pilots are not as sucecptable to the siren song of the kool-aid and have been poisoning/educating the newhires about the realities they are experiencing. As a quick followup, every newhire that I have flown with that went through training for free is totally pissed that they are now paying while in training, and wonder where their retro pay is. I think the company is now realizing that the union is on their doorstep and are trying to slide as many tidbits to their side of the table before that becomes impossible. As to the 50-99 agreement, the kool-aid swillers screwed all of us, I voted no and am not 70 qualified, nor will I ever be with this pay scale.
Gen. open your eyes and take note you can watch your payscale move down to ours or you can join forces with us and bring ours toward yours, choice is yours. I think you might be able to see which way the scales have been sliding lately and I can safely bet which way mgmt wants the scales to slide.
Now back to your regularly scheduled rant!
PBR

 

[Rogue5]

Do you think there was a conflict of interest having a SAPA negotiator (someone negotiating AGAINST the company) placed as the chief pilot (a management stooge) of your biggest base?

Just to clarify: T.F. was a SAPA rep, got the SLC chief pilot job, and was thus forced to resign his SAPA post. He is not currently involved with SAPA in any way.

Current conflict of interst? No. Slimey move to kiss SGU butt and weasel into a CP job? Yup.

Waiting patiently for the next vote,

R5

 

[General Lee]

General Tool,
Since I usually disagree with you totally, I will open up with this YOU ARE RIGHT. You are starting to get it, SKYW formed SAPA as a communication tool for managment to talk to the pilot group, they pay more than 600k a year to run SAPA(or so I hear). Now you see how it works, you work real hard as a SAPA player, deliver something of real value(70 for 50 seat pay), bingo Cheif pilot job drops into your lap, reward for services rendered. They tell us to "SUK IT" every time they issue the paychecks, and I bet they snicker about how easy it was to pull the pilots sphincters over their eyes.
SAPA dispenses the kool-aid via state of the art Slurpee/Frostee machines that are suspiciously similar to the frozen margarita machines at many fine mexican food eateries. For a measly 600K they get tremendous value in terms of workrule/policy manual screwings.
I think for the first time SKYW mgmt has made a very large tactical mistake, in their greed to acquire larger airframes they agreed to take furloughed UAL pilots, these pilots are not as sucecptable to the siren song of the kool-aid and have been poisoning/educating the newhires about the realities they are experiencing. As a quick followup, every newhire that I have flown with that went through training for free is totally pissed that they are now paying while in training, and wonder where their retro pay is. I think the company is now realizing that the union is on their doorstep and are trying to slide as many tidbits to their side of the table before that becomes impossible. As to the 50-99 agreement, the kool-aid swillers screwed all of us, I voted no and am not 70 qualified, nor will I ever be with this pay scale.
Gen. open your eyes and take note you can watch your payscale move down to ours or you can join forces with us and bring ours toward yours, choice is yours. I think you might be able to see which way the scales have been sliding lately and I can safely bet which way mgmt wants the scales to slide.
Now back to your regularly scheduled rant!
PBR

PMSr,

I was told by a 4th floor management guy in ATL that the reason they wanted to push the lower 100 seat wage on us, via the judge, was so they COULD GET REGIONAL RATES DOWN TOO. He said that was one of their main objectives. Now, Jetblue started it (their management implemented it on them I guess...with no union....), and now a judge may do that to us. The guy said "They can't make more than you guys, they fly smaller planes." You are next. Your paycuts are coming, and I am not pleased about it, but all of our management's are in it together probably. They will be the ones with bonuses.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[(o) (o)]

What can I say? I have friends at a lot of airlines and my buddy in Salt Lake who flies for SkyWest told me about this guy. If you don't want to talk about your internal problems, fine. It sounded ridiculous to me, but most of you can't see the forest through the trees anyway. It was good you voted NO though. Have a great day......?


Bye Bye--General Lee

You're flying for a Chapter 11 airline and you want to preach about internal problems?

 

[General Lee]

You're flying for a Chapter 11 airline and you want to preach about internal problems?

Did I say we didn't have internal problems at DL? We ran out of cash. There you have it. I can't debate anything but Delta problems? Thanks Vladimir Putin. But, nothing could be wrong on your cloud in paradise....Get over your bad self. Atleast your pilots voted no to that offer. I still can't believe you all voted for 99 seat airplanes at 50 seat rates. That needs to be changed pronto. You should be happy somebody else "cares" like I do. Most of you are in a daze, enjoying the new growth. Your senior pilots voted no on the last deal, and everyone else who was straight out of Riddle voted for it. I bet Atkin and Reber gave eachother major high fives! (Oh wait, I can't say names on any SkyWest subject.....)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Rogue5]

Hey General, do yourself a favor and step away from the computer: You sound more hysterical with every post.

No one here cares to hear what you have to say nearly as much as you apparently do so why not just cut out the middle-man, stand in front of a mirror, and have your little estrogen-fits face-to-face.

Otherwise, speak with your doctor and get your meds adjusted...

 

[General Lee]

Hey General, do yourself a favor and step away from the computer: You sound more hysterical with every post.

No one here cares to hear what you have to say nearly as much as you apparently do so why not just cut out the middle-man, stand in front of a mirror, and have your little estrogen-fits face-to-face.

Otherwise, speak with you doctor and get your meds adjusted...

Good one. Yeah, and at the same time I will pop my backne (back acne) thanks to all of the roids I am taking.......


Bye Bye--General Lee