120% Torque
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it does, though I disagree. Mngmnt/SAPA is not winning 'hearts and minds' in their little visits to new hire classes. That is maybe 5 or 6 minutes, if at all, that newbies are exposed to them. I believe that if they become fans of our way of doing things here, that comes after the time they spend online. It is then that they can compare us to where they came from-of course tons of Mesa, but also AWAC, TSA, ASA, Comair-you name it. It has been very disconcerting to hear so many swiftly disregard those of us who've come from ALPA regionals by saying that 'we just don't see the big picture' or that 'we just care about a quick upgrade' or whatever lame excuse du jour is being used.
As for SWOL, I get way more messages there from members of the OC than I do from the company about unionizing. All of their messages direct me to skywestalpa.org, where I can get all other questions addressed. I give the OC much more credit in their dissemination of info vs. that of the company's. Not to mention all of the OCs lunches, fliers, leaflets, pens, lanyards, stickers, etc. that have been ubiquitous in crew lounges, locker rooms, airplanes, etc. The company message boards I never read, nor am I compelled to when I check in for work. Look at my eTrip, print it out, read pertinent mail, that's it. Even sapaforums is dominated with the OC and their message. (which reminds me, why don't you post all your thread there? isn't that the audience you're hoping to convince?) There is no 'lack of venues' to get their information out.
I don't see ALPA at any disadvantage at all in their desire to communicate with the pilots here.
I'm sure you (and others) will disagree. However, don't you think that what it comes down to is very simple: if the pilots at SkyWest wanted a union, they would have voted one in long before now. The case seems to be that they don't want one.
SERIOUSLY WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?!!! I am only aware of one or two posts EVER put on Skywestonline by Alpa, that was after they got a temporary restraining order so they could have the ability to communicate with the pilots just like management does but I'm pretty sure that has ended or is not being pushed. You saying whatever you want on this message board that goes against all the facts, does not make it so. Is this Livingston? Seriously you have many simularities with him and I mean that in a bad way. Just for the record I went back and checked the last message I could find from Alpa on skywestonline and it was June second, ALMOST SIX MONTHS AGO. Please immediately reconcile your statement with some proof:
"As for SWOL, I get way more messages there from members of the OC than I do from the company about unionizing"
The last two weeks alone have shown sapa/management littering the company email with their anti-union emails. Once again I am holding your feet to the fire to give me PROOF of what you just said....You sir have been caught in a lie while trying to further your anti-union agenda.
PS- And don't try to convince us, while backpeddling, that it was just people here and there from the OC who said they just liked talking to you. No such emails have gone out on a person to person basis and alpa hasnt sent any recent ones to my knowledge. None to me, none to my friends. Why would you be singled out for these "secret emails"? I have a feeling this is going to be gooood!
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