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crashpad

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I was jumpseating to work this week on UAL and sat next to a nice older woman who was a mother of a Skywest pilot. She told me her new hire son told her to go to the back of the plane after each flight and help clean the cabin while non-reving. She said her son was strongly insistant about this and it was Skywest policy for non-reving.
I can understand showing appreciation and making sure people on your pass benefits behave properly, but this was too much! She was such a down to earth and classy lady, I knew she would do it.
I laughed and told her it was neither expected nor needed. I said her son is just beginning his career and would cross enough seatbelts and help out to cover her for a lifetime of non-rev travels. I gave her some of my Garidellis chocolate and said that was how I show my appreciation.
I truely enjoyed her company on the trip and have no doubt she has a fine son
...he's just still a little green.
 
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Do you think it is her god given right to ride for free? It's a privilege, and to show a little gratitude SkyWest non-revs help fold seatbelts and pick up loose trash in the cabin.
 
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crashpad said:
I was jumpseating to work this week out of OMA on UAL and sat next to a nice older woman who was a mother of a Skywest pilot. She told me her new hire son told her to go to the back of the plane after each flight and help clean the cabin while non-reving. She said her son was strongly insistant about this and that it was Skywest policy for non-reving.
Fortunately, I was there to reeducate her. I explained that her son was supposed to clean the lav because he's not worthy enough to lick my shoes and that if I ever saw her trying to act like anything but a first class customer, I'd report her son toot-sweet to his chief pilot for a well deserved b1tch-slapping.
I could see how relieved she was after talking to a real airline captain and now she can enjoy her travels the way she was meant to.
Skywest Houseboys, I don't care what your comic book manual says...if I ever find another mother thinking they are in some way indebted to the airlines simply for having spawned you, I will insist all Skywest pilots on my plane (and I take more of these peachfuzz waffleheads than anyone) commit to cleaning
the entire aircraft when we get to our destination. I'm not kidding.


I agree.......I would NEVER tell my parents to help cross seat belts as SkyWest
encourages their EMPLOYEES to do while non reving. Again, SkyWest encourages employees to help cross seat belts, not eligibles or buddy pass riders. I think the new hire was just misinterpreting what he heard in ground school. But I am glad you told the mother of the pilot not to do it. Good job.
 
Its not a privilege dummy. Thats stupid. As soon as my son is old enough to walk and he starts flying with my wife i will make sure he cleans the airplane before he gets off because its a privledge!! Come on.

Better
 
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Its not so much a gratitude for the company as it is for helping the FA. At most outstations turns are scheduled for 30 min, FA arent allowed to eat in front of PAX so this may be the only chance they may have to eat etc. I dont think it benefits the company as much as it does the FA and the crew. It also is not so much "cleaning" the airplane but just crossing seatbelts and making the airplane presentable for the next load, the FA usually picks up the trash in the seatpockets since they have the latex gloves. At the hubs the airplane is vacumed and cleaned by the ground crew and at overnight stations.

It dosent hurt to help someone out, its just a basis for teamwork and one of the things that SkyWest has going for it.
 
Superpilot92 said:
Its not a privledge dummy. Thats stupid. As soon as my son is old enough to walk and he starts flying with my wife i will make sure he cleans the airplane before he gets off because its a privledge!! Come on.


Who said it was priviledge....dummy??? Not me....fact of the matter is I will not tell my parents to help out just because they non rev'd. They did enough to help me get to this point. If you dont agree with me I dont give a $hit. When I non rev I always help out but I am not going to make my parents cross seat belts....ridiculous. We will have to agree to disagree!
 
I'll cross seatbelts, take the trash out and pick up the barf bags. But I'll be DAMNNED if my, or anyone elses mother is going to lift a finger!!! It is their right to ride in an empty seat on my airline simply for having spawn and put up with me for so many years......not to mention the morgage and life insurance they tapped into to help pay for it all.

I treat ANY airline family like gold in the hopes that when another crew has my family aboard they'll do the same.
 
Agree with mcpickle, I willnever tell my family to stay and help, or anything like that. I'm more than happy to help when I jumpseat/Nonrev though, not to help the airline, but the crew, especially if they were nice to me.
 
I can maybe see employees helping out a bit, but not their parents......Stupid. They worked hard enough raising you to be a good employee. If the Stews can't handle it, raise the pay and find some that can. What is the difference when there are 50 revenue passengers and 50 non revs? I guess the stews would rather have all non revs so she can do NOTHING. I bet our Delta old a$$ stews would LOVE to have your SkyWest "rules"----they would sit back and laugh, just like they do enroute.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
As a J/S 'er or non rev, I will make sure I pickup behind myself and cross my seatbelt, stop by the flight deck and thank the crew AGAIN on the way off the airplane, (just as I do coming on board) It is appreciated....I never told my parents to clean a cabin though, maybe bake some cookies, that Might help......Lame thread, agreed
 
Oh, we are so lucky to have the wisdom of a 'captain' the eminence of Crashpad so as to regale us with his flights of fancy, however: 1) it's not SkyWest policy, nor rules as GL paraphrased (misguided though it is); 2) it's appreciated on SkyWest airplanes, and I've never heard any internal mention of doing it on a mainline (from anybody in the company); 3) perhaps the new guy's mom misunderstood the intent or the message was relayed in a not-so-clear manner. Nonetheless, for one who spouts about professionalism and education, your example of restituion, punishment and to a lesser extent your grammar (et al.), speak more to your credibility than your faux profile. Curious--how would you ensure the 'peachfuzz waffleheads' stick around and clean your plane post facto--talk about something that would lead you to your Chief's office regarding ethical malbehavior. Does it feel good to rip on other pilots--or just make stuff up--just to have people join your lack-of-anyhting-useful gala?

I'll be doing ORD to CMH, DAY, & DSM all week--you're more than welcome to come find this in our 'rulebook/policy manual' (I'll lend you anything you need to make your point valid) and I, nor likely others, would neither ask you to help with belts nor expect it. While I do call onto the carpet SKYW folks who are deadheading for not participating in the belt party--I've never questioned not-on-the-clock non-revs. Nonetheless, your imagination is impressive.

The larger question regarding expectations of non-revs may be valid, but your specifc point is without merit, and honestly, your fancy is weak.
 
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acaTerry said:
Apparently, so is an education. Most 2nd grade students can spell that.

I fixed it. Do you feel like a big man for being the 2nd person to find my spelling error?

As others have mentioned, cleaning the cabin is more of a favor to the FA's than anything else. It would be nice to help them out a little and help clean up or fold seatbelts on your way out.
 
KO King said:
Who said it was priviledge....dummy??? Not me....fact of the matter is I will not tell my parents to help out just because they non rev'd. They did enough to help me get to this point. If you dont agree with me I dont give a $hit. When I non rev I always help out but I am not going to make my parents cross seat belts....ridiculous. We will have to agree to disagree!

Not you Viking said that Dummy!!
 
Superpilot92 said:
Not you Viking said that Dummy!!
Who is Viking?

And why do people who can't spell privilege call each other "dummy"?



I'm gonna go back to listening to the neighborhood 5-yr-olds argue about which car is faster so I can get a break from this silliness.


Since I'm already here ... Anybody who would expect a Mom to cross seatbelts and collect trash has NO respect, no SELF-Respect. I would be embarrassed to see such a sight. Good grief. :rolleyes:





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viper548 said:
Do you think it is her god given right to ride for free? It's a privilege, and to show a little gratitude SkyWest non-revs help fold seatbelts and pick up loose trash in the cabin.

Sorry i meant viper!!
 
I think it is a professional courtsey to keep YOUR seat clean when non reving and not make a mess. I personaly make sure my seat is clear of any trash and the seat belt is crossed, but this is just my way of thanking the CREW for the ride.
 

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