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skypine69

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Skywest lost a wrongful termination lawsuit this week. They have been ordered to reinstate the pilot with backpay and all attorneys fees.

How much do you think this will cost Skywest? I say at least 2 million, if you count in all the back pay, attorneys for both sides, court costs, pay for every one that testified, etc.

Also, should the chief pilot in question be fired and should his supervisor, the VP of Flt Ops be fired?
 
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The court has already ruled on this. All he gets is his job back with senority, all back pay, reembursement of medical expenses he incurred since he didn't have insurance since his termination and reembursment of reasonable attorney fees. While it's a victory, and rightfully so; it's a bitter sweet one.

The Chief Pilot involved has since been removed from that post but is still employed and flys the line.
 
The chief pilot flys the line?
Wonder what happens to the other commerical hrs flown?
Don't most airlines have a policy about outside flying?
While I am uncertain any is taking place, it certainly WAS taking place recently, and commercial work..from what I read..like AC units onto rooftops?
 
Well, when you get your boss (the aformentioned VP flt ops) a helo rating the rules apply less to you than other pilots.

And no, SAPA can sit in on the meeting, but not offer advice or even speak.
 
skypine69 said:
Well, when you get your boss (the aformentioned VP flt ops) a helo rating the rules apply less to you than other pilots.

And no, SAPA can sit in on the meeting, but not offer advice or even speak.
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Unless he takes to company's side....
 
The company said they fired him for writing F___ Fizer on the wall and denied doing it. The judge ruled that he was terminated for calling in fatigued and TF went on a witch hunt.
 
If memory serves, didn't this CP also bring in some sort of fake "handwriting expert" to try to identify the guy who wrote it on the wall?
 
If memory serves, didn't this CP also bring in some sort of fake "handwriting expert" to try to identify the guy who wrote it on the wall?
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He brought in 2 handwriting experts actually and the fired pilot hired 1 handwriting expert. Take one guess as to how each of the experts ruled on the evidence.
 
If they're getting worked up about that they should come take a look at the ASA bathroom walls.
 
Morning Wood said:
It wasn't in the bathroom (although there is some similar stuff in there too). It was on the wall in the crew lounge.
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And I thought we had stupid crap going on at ASA!!!!

I thought ya'll were one big happy freaki'n family out there in the big saline pond!!! "Don't need no union and all that crap!!!!"

Thanks for making me feel better about the Union dues.

But on a serious note, I am glad dude got his job back. Stupid stunt, but he shouldn't be fired for it.
 
So say again why so many SKW pilots don't want ALPA? Pretty sure this is a good example of why you would like someone representing you.
 
Yet another reason I will be voting YES. Time after time I have seen pilots at Skywest who believe we are one big happy family with management (which is true about 90% of the time). It has been educational to watch those same pilots become true union believers when the management "witch hunt" begins. Watch yourselves cause nobody's got your back. "At will employee" takes on a whole new meaning. Just ask Don.
 
you can still f fizer

buscap said:
And I thought we had stupid crap going on at ASA!!!!

I thought ya'll were one big happy freaki'n family out there in the big saline pond!!! "Don't need no union and all that crap!!!!"

Thanks for making me feel better about the Union dues.

But on a serious note, I am glad dude got his job back. Stupid stunt, but he shouldn't be fired for it.
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Most guys at Skywest couldn't handle the financial burden of seeing this through (over $100,000) and would have had to settle with a ruined career (at his age). Especially the new hires who make 19/hr. I say vote ALPA and take advantage of a fair process. I'm sure CFIT will be on soon with his intelligent anti-ALPA arguments like:

ALPA sucks!
Look at MESA! and so on...
 
How about if they garnishee TF's salary for awhile to pay back what it cost? As dead against unions as SkyWest is, whose head do you think will roll if this drive passes? Granted there isn't one single issue to vote for or against ALPA, but how many fence sitters or ones who were against will now vote YES because of this guy? I still think he was reassigned so that more pilots didn't get pissed off and decide to vote YES.
 
Morning Wood said:
How about if they garnishee TF's salary for awhile to pay back what it cost? As dead against unions as SkyWest is, whose head do you think will roll if this drive passes? Granted there isn't one single issue to vote for or against ALPA, but how many fence sitters or ones who were against will now vote YES because of this guy? I still think he was reassigned so that more pilots didn't get pissed off and decide to vote YES.
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Maybe someone would be kind enough to ask these questions during the next shareholder's meeting or the next conference call
 
Skywest Pylot said:
Yet another reason I will be voting YES. Time after time I have seen pilots at Skywest who believe we are one big happy family with management (which is true about 90% of the time). It has been educational to watch those same pilots become true union believers when the management "witch hunt" begins. Watch yourselves cause nobody's got your back. "At will employee" takes on a whole new meaning. Just ask Don.
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Been there and done that. Hope to get an ALPA t-shift now after some of the crap I've seen.
 
viper548 said:
BS terminations are rare but as this case shows, it can happen to anyone for any reason.
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Not to go into any details here but what do you think Viper? Think I'm a fence sitter after my brief incounter with the dark underbelly of our big happy family?! :)
 
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viper548 said:
BS terminations are rare but as this case shows, it can happen to anyone for any reason.
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BS terminations are far from rare. What is rare is for the average line pilot to get anything close to what the facts are in a disciplinary event involving someone other than themselves.
 
Alpa

This stupidness never would have happened with ALPA around.
-Guaranteed.

-BTW-I will be voting for Chuck Norris in '08! Awesome!
 

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