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Grey whats your deal? A couple of weeks ago you were claiming to be a SKW new hire and now your bashing us? What kind of f*cking loser starts threads on FI pretending to be one of the guys to campaign against a pilot group?
Do you ever leave your computer?
Do you ever get laid?
Honestly how many times have you worn your uniform in public on your days off?
Did your friends give you props for starting all those Anti SKW threads pretending to be one of our new hires?
At SKW junior manning is voluntary, whats is the policy at your company? Are you "lowering" the work rule bar

7.5 posts a day???Get a life you f*cking geek.
 
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I personally have been anti-union most of my life, but never worked in or was affected by an industry that had them until I became a pilot. With that said, I don't know where to stand on this topic. I don't understand why people want the aviation business to be so different from any other profession.

I disagree with management gaining at reductions of worker quality of life, but once everyone is properly compensated why can't management make money? That is how businesses are run, they’re a direct reflection of our society; a few get the most. I'm sure I'm going to get nailed for that comment and I do respect the fact that aviation business are by nature different than other industries, but do they have to be run differently?

If you were an accountant or owned an engineering firm wouldn't you set your rates at a point that would make your business as profitable and marketable as possible? As much as we are all one group and I would never wish harm upon somebody else or want their family to be in a position of hurt, aren't we all truly competitors?

Isn't that the reason that there are different companies with different compensation packages and work rules? We all must work under a certain set of restrictions set by the FAA but beyond that it is up to each company to use them to their best advantage. It then becomes our choice as to which place we go to suit our own personal needs best.

I am not advocating lowering the bar or running a business that undercuts another while not being profitable, Mesa or whatever they're called in Hawaii being a prime example. I'm also opposed to management undercutting their current employees by hiring a new set of employees at a more favorable positioning rate, you fill in the rest.

What am I saying is that if a stand alone company chooses to run their company a certain way, why is that so bad? Everyday people are given multiple job offers and the choice isn't always the most money; you need to look at the full package. Whichever company fits you best for all the things that you choose to identify as important is where you need to go.

With all of this said, does our industry still require national unions? Is that in the best interest of everyone involved? I know how much has been done in the past, but the past is past, do we still need to live there? Like I said earlier I'm still trying to figure out my position on it. If I decide I don't like the union and I get in there, I'll plan on paying my money to a charity of my choice. If I figure out we need unions, I'll support 100% of it.

I know some of the issues facing SkyWest go around the fact of benefits, will ALPA get better benefits? If the work rules are good, what will ALPA provide in improvements? Are benefits based on company choices?

Just some questions I have on my quest to understand the topic. I try not to read many of these forums because it all just turns to people b#tching about stuff. If we are all "one" group why do we constantly bash and pick at our brethren who are just trying to make a living and enjoy their job? I know more questions than answers here and that seems to be the status-quo with this topic. Any political topic is bowed to be charged, I just wish we could have a rational conversation on this.
 
With all the recent problems Skywest Pilots are having with the FAA, keep on thinking that way. How do I know this? One of our former pilots currently is at the FAA and one of my friends just signed on. Speaking to him about it, it sounds pretty serious. I guess your little SAPA sent out a letter saying something to the effect that they're not going to help anybody who screws up anymore along with the Company. As I understand it, ALPA has since gotten involved a little, and have asked the question...."What is the reason for all the problems? Rather than go on a Witch Hunt and violate a bunch of pilots, let's figure out why it's happening and what we can do to fix it, rather than hang pilots out to dry." I'd say that's pretty good insurance to have.....

Trojan



Ya the FAA is serious about the problems, because some of the problems are truly pathetic. FAA in the jump seat and a captain is reading a magazine and talking to approach. Or one better, FAA in the jumpseat and the captain answers his cell phone taxiing out. Then there's the captain that answers his phone on final during a line check but it's okay, it was the FO's leg. And of course there should be protection for the crews that actually departed with out being fueled for their flight and had to divert, 2 with min fuel, 1 with emergency fuel remaining.


Ya, I want ALPA protection for that.


That being said the company and SAPA are helping the pilot's with the FAA, one crew will get a localized letter at the CMO, which will "disapear" in about 12 months.
 
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I was on the maiden flight from YUL. You have to see the plane in person, it really is stunning! The controllers went nuts over it in Burlignton and SLC. Unfortunately, DL has pictched a hissy fit about the paint scheme. Since it will be flying out of ATL who knows how long the paint job will last.
 
I was on the maiden flight from YUL. You have to see the plane in person, it really is stunning! The controllers went nuts over it in Burlignton and SLC. Unfortunately, DL has pictched a hissy fit about the paint scheme. Since it will be flying out of ATL who knows how long the paint job will last.

I dont understand how they get away with the skywest paint on any of the planes. Many of the aircraft dont even have the name of the mailine partner on them?
 
Unfortunately, DL has pictched a hissy fit about the paint scheme. Since it will be flying out of ATL who knows how long the paint job will last.
Delta ordered the airplane. Delta pays the tab. If Delta wants their name on the airplane they bought to promote their brand it simply seems logical.

SkyWest is a crew and aircraft leasing company which operates in service to an airline.
 
True - But SkyWest INC. helped them out of bankruptcy by buying ASA. You would think they would let us have a little Hurrah?
 
So we're not paying a dime for that thing? I'm willing to bet that operational lease will be shown on our financial statement (as far as operatoinal leases are [hidden under long-term debt]), not Delta's. If SkyWest is just ACMI (and so too would be ASA, Comair, Mesa and the whole shebang), why is there so much complaining about who is flying what, since Delta can 'do whatever they want'?
 
5th year Captain $99,800. Gets old hearing the same crap on these boards. Please speak if you know what your talking about. SkyWest hell of a lot better then any other regional. The most important thing is employees are still proud of their company. There is a reason for that!!!
 
I think I am going to cry.
 
Anybody care to say who painted that 35th Anny. Aircraft?? Me thinks that ExpressJet got paid for that fine piece of Mexican paint shop splendor.........


You thinks wrong.....

It came brand new from the factory with that paint.
 
...And with little fanfare the 35 'th anniversary Brasilia was rolled out as well:

Here it is in Fresno I think

Well, I always suspected the Barbie Jet guys were a little "light in the loafers", if you know what I mean. Man that paint job takes 'em totally out of the closet. That thing looks queerer than a football bat, IMHO.
 

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