SKYW profits plunge, still no fourlough?

[Speedtape]

Skywest isn't furloughing because they are NON union. ASA is furloughing because they are union.

I really don't see the connection with furlough or non-furlough and being union or not. But, believe what you want. I wll be PMing you later this fall when the other shoe drops. Until then, have a good Summer!

 

[sunlitpath]

SKYWEST INC. is profitable. This is quite an achievement in this difficult environment. Skywest likes being profitable. It continuously strives to maintain value for shareholders. Skywest doesn't Fook around...

 

[Erlanger]

Clearly your frustrations are aimed elsewhere. Just look your avatar. Having said that, you really don't think that if Jerry and company needed to choose between SKW and ASA that they will choose the latter right? Financially doesn't make sense to go with a union Airlines as far as management is concern. They will bleed ASA before they touch SKW.
Override is being here for a long time.
By the way dude, live and let it live. If somebody has a religion preference, who cares. If bothers you that much, go seek help.

That's why Brad Holt is still on the Skywest pilots' senority list. Atleast he'll have someplace to go back to. He was no dummy. He negotiated that before he accepted the ASA job.

 

[USCtrojan]

That's why Brad Holt is still on the Skywest pilots' senority list. Atleast he'll have someplace to go back to. He was no dummy. He negotiated that before he accepted the ASA job.

Funny, just talked to Brad. Said if ASA were to fail, all of SkyWest would go under as well. I guess that's why most of St. George is transferring to ATL. I'd be a little more worried about the United side of things.....Not looking too hot over there.

Trojan

 

[WalterSobchak]

Funny, just talked to Brad. Said if ASA were to fail, all of SkyWest would go under as well. I guess that's why most of St. George is transferring to ATL. I'd be a little more worried about the United side of things.....Not looking too hot over there.

Trojan

I don't think it's looking too hot on any side of the house right now. Not fun to think about at all...

 

[Erlanger]

Funny, just talked to Brad. Said if ASA were to fail, all of SkyWest would go under as well. I guess that's why most of St. George is transferring to ATL. I'd be a little more worried about the United side of things.....Not looking too hot over there.

Trojan

You're so funny Trojan. I know Brad didn't say such things. I've been at Skywest along time and I know Brad personally. I'm not buddies with him but I do know him and even went flying with him from St. George to Phoenix and back in a C206 once. I just saw Brad barely 2 weeks ago in St. George. Brad has his house in St. George, his family still lives here and he spends alot of his time in St. George and still manages to run ASA.

If ASA fails Skywest fails. Are you kidding? How did Skywest manage all these years on it's own before it bought ASA? I don't think Skywest is worried about United or Delta. If you did speak to Brad did he tell you about the contingency plans Skywest has if United went under? It's not a secret. Ask him next time. No guarantee it will work but it's a viable one.

Employees are not leaving Skywest for ASA because they are worried about Skywest going under. Brad has been bringing them there to help out cause your own management sucks. Brad told me afew of months ago that in time he may have to fire anyone in a managerial position and change the mindset there.

Also do you know how Skywest, ASA and the holding company Skywest, Inc is set up? The holding company is in St. George. Skywest, Inc only has 2 employees, Jerry Atkin and the CFO(can't remember his name). Almost all administrated work for the holding company is done by Skywest employees. ASA submits its records to Skywest and Skywest personel does the auditing for Skywest, Inc. I guess Jerry doesn't trust ASA to do it's own. ASA pays 60% of Jerry's and the CFO salary, Skywest pays 40% and ASA pays Skywest a fee to do it's records. I would bet that any Skywest personel that is in Atlanta doing work for ASA is still a Skywest employee. I can assure you that Skywest employees at HQ don't want to be employed by ASA. They are extremely loyal people.

I know you're full of sh1t that you said you talked to Brad but if you did then you could again, so next time why don't you ask him why he's still on the Skywest senority list.

What else do you want to know?

 

[check6]

At Skywest, can they furlough from the top down?

 

[USCtrojan]

You're so funny Trojan. I know Brad didn't say such things. I've been at Skywest along time and I know Brad personally. I'm not buddies with him but I do know him and even went flying with him from St. George to Phoenix and back in a C206 once. I just saw Brad barely 2 weeks ago in St. George. Brad has his house in St. George, his family still lives here and he spends alot of his time in St. George and still manages to run ASA.

If ASA fails Skywest fails. Are you kidding? How did Skywest manage all these years on it's own before it bought ASA? I don't think Skywest is worried about United or Delta. If you did speak to Brad did he tell you about the contingency plans Skywest has if United went under? It's not a secret. Ask him next time. No guarantee it will work but it's a viable one.

Employees are not leaving Skywest for ASA because they are worried about Skywest going under. Brad has been bringing them there to help out cause your own management sucks. Brad told me afew of months ago that in time he may have to fire anyone in a managerial position and change the mindset there.

Also do you know how Skywest, ASA and the holding company Skywest, Inc is set up? The holding company is in St. George. Skywest, Inc only has 2 employees, Jerry Atkin and the CFO(can't remember his name). Almost all administrated work for the holding company is done by Skywest employees. ASA submits its records to Skywest and Skywest personel does the auditing for Skywest, Inc. I guess Jerry doesn't trust ASA to do it's own. ASA pays 60% of Jerry's and the CFO salary, Skywest pays 40% and ASA pays Skywest a fee to do it's records. I would bet that any Skywest personel that is in Atlanta doing work for ASA is still a Skywest employee. I can assure you that Skywest employees at HQ don't want to be employed by ASA. They are extremely loyal people.

I know you're full of sh1t that you said you talked to Brad but if you did then you could again, so next time why don't you ask him why he's still on the Skywest senority list.

What else do you want to know?

Well somebody has their Jjammies in a wad. Settle down. Brad's house was up for sale, don't know if it is anymore with the economy in its state. Tell him I said hi and thanks for doing such a great job at ASA when you see him. So what happens to SkyWest AIRLINES if it loses its United codeshare because they can't hang on? Read the annual report buddy, we're all on the same ship going in the same direction. Reference ASA's cancellations in early April...

You're right, our Mgmt. did suck, and there is still some cleaning to do. Why don't you step off your high and mighty? You don't like it... I don't like it either -- remember that.

Brad Rich is the CFO for SkyW. Inc.

Trojan

 

[OCP]

Why would he be full of it for talking to Brad? Not only did we have a "town hall meeting" the other day, Brad and Scott are very approachable here at ASA, so its VERY likely he talked to Brad the other day.

Oh yeah... And keep telling your self that Skywest has never furloughed a pilot, because as you elude to many times, it is Skywest that controls every aspect of ASA.

 

[crj567]

At Skywest, can they furlough from the top down?

They can do anything they want----No union.-

-DUH...

 

[flyboyzz1]

VERY true... but one of their top goals is to KEEP a union far away from their pilot group... if they furloughed top down I'd bet my nuts that a union would be on property....

 

[pipers]

in two minutes

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Nice try,
Every friend Brad has is on the 1st page of the seniority list, the further down the list you are the less you know Brad. Junior guys will most likely be the meat on the hook. Sorry!
PBR

 

[Nevets]

VERY true... but one of their top goals is to KEEP a union far away from their pilot group... if they furloughed top down I'd bet my nuts that a union would be on property....

So in other words, they can but as of right now the cost-benefit analysis says they probably wont?

 

[flyboyzz1]

If you are saying the cost-benefit is remaining union free...then yes it probably wont happen. I'd go further to say it will NEVER happen that way. People may not like mngmt at SKW but that aside...they aren't stupid people.

 

[Nevets]

If you are saying the cost-benefit is remaining union free...then yes it probably wont happen. I'd go further to say it will NEVER happen that way. People may not like mngmt at SKW but that aside...they aren't stupid people.

Who aren't stupid? Management or the people? Certainly the management are not stupid.

Yeah, I'm talking about the cost-benefit of being able to do whatever a company wants with their at-will employees versus the risk of them unionizing. I would not go as far as saying never. I'm sure there is a specific cost that would tilt the scales towards risking unionization. Maybe its $10 million or $100 million? Who knows but is always a specific cost in the cost-benefit analysis to anything.

 

[check6]

They can do anything they want----No union.-

-DUH...

That's what I figured. I just wanted to hear it from the horse's mouth. Duh!

 

[imisscorplife]

Dont worry there will be a PHX SKYW base in the next several months for USAir............

 

[CEO silly sap]

Skywest isn't furloughing because they are NON union. ASA is furloughing because they are union.

I think you might want to reformulate your question.

How many pilots have been fired from Skywest in the last year vs ASA. I would argure that skywest fires more than asa furloughs.... Rest assured the answer will be....fired, no but the resignations were in the triple digits... how is your non union now?

 

[Goose Egg]

I think you might want to reformulate your question.

How many pilots have been fired from Skywest in the last year vs ASA. I would argure that skywest fires more than asa furloughs.... Rest assured the answer will be....fired, no but the resignations were in the triple digits... how is your non union now?

Absent, which suits me just fine.