Skybus

[El Pobre]

What's the difference between a skybus Captain who elects to make $65/hr and an ASA FO that elects to take a position at $20/hr? Both are willing to take an undercutting job to enhance their future hiring potential while continuing to give management the opportunity to continue wage and benefit cuts at the legacy and other carriers. So why is everyone getting on Skybus people? Should people that work at ASA, Chataqua, or Skywest be embarrased for working that those airlines?

Let's face it, in about 10 years there won't be any majors worth upgrading to...everyone will be flying 150 seat RJ's for $50 and hour.

 

[737 Pylt]

Other required equipment:

(1) Backpack (to carry manuals)

(1) Pair Oakley sunglasses

(1) Automobile in running condition (for delivering pizzas to supplement pay).


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Don't forget.......Wearing your uniform in public and bragging you're an airline pilot!


737

 

[Guam360]

What's the difference between a skybus Captain who elects to make $65/hr and an ASA FO that elects to take a position at $20/hr? Both are willing to take an undercutting job to enhance their future hiring potential while continuing to give management the opportunity to continue wage and benefit cuts at the legacy and other carriers. So why is everyone getting on Skybus people? Should people that work at ASA, Chataqua, or Skywest be embarrased for working that those airlines?

Let's face it, in about 10 years there won't be any majors worth upgrading to...everyone will be flying 150 seat RJ's for $50 and hour.

So what does ASA or and regional have to with this post, NOTHING. $20 p/hr is across the board at these airlines, that is a good start to what it used to be, what would you know, according to your profile you haven't flown at these airlines.

ASA and the others have been around for more thatn 25 years and more. Chautaugua, mnaybe 35 years. Captain's pay at the upper years are hurting. This Skybus is all on it's own, why don't you compare it to Allegiant or the new Western?

And, No, they shouldn't be embarrased to work there, any of them. Those are all respectable positions to have. Again, you wouldn't know.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

These guys should never get jumpseat privileges.

Why??? They're not crossing anybody's picket line.

 

[clickclickboom]

What's the difference between a skybus Captain who elects to make $65/hr and an ASA FO that elects to take a position at $20/hr? Both are willing to take an undercutting job to enhance their future hiring potential while continuing to give management the opportunity to continue wage and benefit cuts at the legacy and other carriers. So why is everyone getting on Skybus people? Should people that work at ASA, Chataqua, or Skywest be embarrased for working that those airlines?

Let's face it, in about 10 years there won't be any majors worth upgrading to...everyone will be flying 150 seat RJ's for $50 and hour.

Difference?

One has 5000 hrs at a minimum at least a few type ratings and more than likely a few thousand hours of Command time in turbojet aircraft.

The other is more than likely in their 20's just got done spending $120,000 to become a pilot at some academy and never flew professionally a day in their lives..

I personally think skybus is going to get spanked but if there was ever a case to unionize a pilot group asap this is it..

 

[skipper1]

maybe they will have $10/hr per diem? :beer:

 

[V-STALL]

From their web site

All of us at Skybus love what is at the heart of the airline business — flying people from where they are to where they want to go. But there are a few things we don’t love about it, namely:

• High fares
• Connecting flights through busy airports
• Uncomfortable, small regional airplanes
• Late arrivals
• Lost bags
• Unfriendly service

We have a plan to change all of that. And we have quite a few people, both investors and employees, who have a lot invested in believing we can change it. The plan is simple — to give you, the traveler, what you want. Which is why with Skybus, you’ll get:

• Really low fares
• Nonstop service to major destinations
• New 150-seat jet aircraft
• On-time arrivals
• Luggage that arrives when you do
• A smile

You may not believe it, and judging by what’s been happening with airlines over the years, we don’t blame you. So we’re going to prove it.
All that’s left to do now is wait and watch.

 

[skiandsurf]

The plan is simple — to give you, the traveler, what you want. Which is why with Skybus, you’ll get:
[LIST]
[*]Really low fares
[*]Nonstop service to major destinations
[*]New 150-seat jet aircraft
[*]On-time arrivals
[*]Luggage that arrives when you do
[*]A smile[/LIST][/quote]

The passengers really dont want 150 seats on a plane that should only seat 132.

How can you do better with on-time arrivals than the competition? What about weather delays? Or does Skybus takeoff with ice and thunderstorms?

How can you be sure that the luggage arrives when you do?

A smile? Every airline has a disgruntled employee.

Good luck. Keep your logbooks up to date.

 

[fam62c]

I wouldn't worry too much about Skybus; their business plan is weak at best. CMH and the surrounding area doesn't have enough local traffic to support an airline hub; I'll be surprised if this airline lasts 6 months if they ever actually fly a revenue flight at all. If for some reason they do make a go of it for awhile the competitors will flatten them before they really get any momentum. The last thing the USA needs is another LCC start-up; in order to do this successfully you need a ton of start-up money (like JetBlue) experienced, proven management and a hub with boatloads of local customers looking for an alternative to entrenched, high-fare competition. My guess is that we can add Skybus to a long list of failed start-ups.

As far as pay is concerned; there will always be some pilots who will roll the dice in order to get in on the ground floor of what they think could be a good thing. I'm guessing that when Southwest started they probably paid pretty low wages compared to the established 737 operators. I'm not saying that this will be the next Southwest (I think it will crash and burn) but if they can find Captains for 65K in year one to get the company started why would they pay more?

 

[Clavin]

Why??? They're not crossing anybody's picket line.

but they are dragging the career still lower. the line has to be drawn somewhere.