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Jet41 said:
You have no idea why these guys decided to work at Skybus. Fact is it's none of your business. Try taking the high road sometime, show a little grace.
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Tell your son or daughter to show a little grace and accept the job that is being offered to them flying an RJ for $40 an hour. Not possible? I got news for you, there are folks flying an airbus for $60. Even in Africa they pay more money than that to fly a CRJ. What a joke this market has become
 
skiandsurf said:
I was at CMH yesterday, and watched their operation. I was looking for any pilots that I might recognize. Their uniforms are terrible. And I know most of you dont like hats, but how about "beenies". All the pilots I saw were wearing these beenies, not sure if it was part of the uniform or not.
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Uhh... sure they weren't yarmulkes? I believe we're about halfway through Hannukah, which might explain it.
 
Say Again Over said:
I have worked with several scabs, very nice people, and who knows how many scabs gave me a jump seat at CA and UAL, I am very grateful.
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"Very nice people?" :rolleyes:
 
Guys I do not know if SkyBus will be an issue in a year or two. They finally got financing for their next installment of 319's. 19 to be exact. Read the article in Aviation Week. It took some convincing, but they finally got the approval of a bank over in the far east.
I talked to them and when they told me what they were going to pay for the left seat I laughed and respectfully walked away. You can make more flying in the left seat of any regional carriers 50 seaters. Fact is that their pay does not compare to any ones. Even outfits like SA and Cargo 360 blow these guys out of the box. Either their fares will go up to compensate their workforce, or their workforce will quite for greener pastures. I know two guys that when their, and have been disappointed from day one.
Denying a jumpseat is a Captain's decision, but for anyone that has commuted, you know that is a very dangerous game to play.
 
Today (Pearl Harbor Day) is the beginning of Hanukkah, according to my Confederate Air Force calendar. So if you saw them before today it must be something else.
Of course, the calendar also says the "backbone of the Pacific Fleet was broken" which must mean that carriers were what, the femur?
Tip of the hat to all the current and former Squids (especially the crew of LSD-52) on this infamous day.
 
Dumb Pilot said:
Tell your son or daughter to show a little grace and accept the job that is being offered to them flying an RJ for $40 an hour. Not possible? I got news for you, there are folks flying an airbus for $60. Even in Africa they pay more money than that to fly a CRJ. What a joke this market has become
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Then start a new career if it's that bad.

BTW, when my son or daughter are at the point in their life to begin a career, I will not tell them anything. They will be adults and can make that decision for themselves.

As for me, I never said I would work for Skybus. Only that I would give them a lift if need.
 
I am sure, when the Southwest guys and gals were lower paid than the rest that noone gave them $hit about riding the jumpseat....now look at them.

Get off your high horse, welcome the guy aboard, and pray to whomever it is you pray that your career goes well and you don't have to start over like many of them. They have done NOTHING to you, except pay their mortgages and buy food for their families. I suppose when PCL 128 was doing that at the regional level or was buying his job, it wasn't doing anything to the profession.

A350
 
According to the Skybus wiki:

"Starting pilot wages are also below average in terms of hourly rate, starting at $65,000 annually for Captains, and $30,000 for First Officers as a minimum guarantee. The average captains' earnings are about $90,000 vs $120,000 per year for a 1st year Captain at airlines like United Airlines but in the case of Skybus this includes a significant stock options and profit share package unique in the airline industry today which, depending on airline financial performance, can make them the highest paid pilots in the US"

Any truth to this statement?
 
DoinTime said:
Consider this...If you showed up at a SkyBus gate and told the gate agent that you think you should get a seat for free what do you think they would tell you?
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I think they would tell me 9 dollars please!!!
 
If doing something that "lowers the bar" is reason to exclude from the jumpseat...... then there won't be many of us riding the jumpseat..... Including those who paid Gulfstream to sit in the right seat.....

Lot's of people in glass houses throwing stones.........
 
AirBadger said:
...a significant stock options and profit share package unique in the airline industry today which, depending on airline financial performance, can make them the highest paid pilots in the US"

Any truth to this statement?
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Probably about as much truth as CommutAir telling us our ESOP will make us all millionaires if we stayed long enough to be fully vested... :rolleyes:
 
JoeMerchant said:
If doing something that "lowers the bar" is reason to exclude from the jumpseat...... then there won't be many of us riding the jumpseat..... Including those who paid Gulfstream to sit in the right seat.....

Lot's of people in glass houses throwing stones.........
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and those who sued the Assocaition.... there are no rocks and stones about your house....
 
Dumb Pilot said:
BS. These individuals have done some irreparable damage to the industry as a whole by redefining the bottom, accepting the same rate that MESA pais to their captains (which is low to begin with) to fly an Airbus is no better than to cross a picket line or to lie about your hours on your logbook. These individuals are bottom feeders that accepted this position because 1) SJS to create resume and move on 2) they are SCABS and this is the only job they can get 3) They have checkered past and this is the only POS job they can get. They did not consider the repercussions of what this will do to the future earnings of your sons and daughters if they decide to venture into this career and the long term effects that setting a new industry low will have. They don't deserve ANY common curtesy
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You're such as a$$! And an uneducated one too. Please keep picket line crossers and scabs in a separate category. people like you make this world dumber and dumber
 
I like Skybus, the girls that work there are slutty.
TheInsider said:
You're such as a$$! And an uneducated one too. Please keep picket line crossers and scabs in a separate category. people like you make this world dumber and dumber
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You are dumb.
 
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Not sure if it matters at your company, but the letter I received from the Skybus jumpseat coordinator stated they will take any 121 pilot or dispatcher as a jumpseater reciprocal agreement or not. The letter was also very professional and respectful.

I don't like the Skybus business model any more than you guys do, but I don't like the thought of any pilot being away from their family longer than they have to.

How many of those pilots went there with the intention of getting the Airbus type, a few hours, and taking it to another airline? I don't know, and neither do you.
 

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