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The fact that they have redefined a new bottom is what I find annoying.

What he said. But the blame further goes to our pilot groups when these guys and gals come over as new-hires. We just let them trot in as if their choices, that helped to bring down our profession, never ever happened.

.....said the pilot who has this in his profile:
A/C Flown: ATR 42/72, E135/145, LR35, C310, PA31, PA44, CE210, GV, B737, B757, B767.

unless those E-jets were used to fly around corporate big-wigs and not under some legacy carriers colors, I am quite sure that some routes you flew were once flown by -9 or 737 drivers that used to make more money than you did. We all are to blame in some way....and that includes you! Glass houses and all...
 
I finally got to see a couple guys in those sweet park ranger uniforms. Those are god awful.
 
This is exactly what RyanAir does, which resulted in it being sued in the European court. Now it has to say where it's going to, not the closest big name place.
These guys came from there - they're just following the model, until someone sues.

I was just on the RyanAir web site, and they essentially have the same format as Skybus where they have the actual departure location in parentheses. If someone sued Ryan Air over this, then they obviously didn't win to change anything, and so I see no grounds for anyone being able to sue Skybus.
 
I am quite sure that some routes you flew were once flown by -9 or 737 drivers that used to make more money than you did. We all are to blame in some way....and that includes you! Glass houses and all...

Wait a NY minute. Who was it that negotiated this outsourcing?

Typical, the mainline drivers gives away more and more of their flying and then point fingers. I think you should read the thread again because you are way off topic here.

This is not about routes that belong to a particular group or banner/colors. This is about accepting RJ wages to fly an Airbus. Unacceptable, degrading and shameful
 
Wait a NY minute. Who was it that negotiated this outsourcing?

Typical, the mainline drivers gives away more and more of their flying and then point fingers. I think you should read the thread again because you are way off topic here.

This is not about routes that belong to a particular group or banner/colors. This is about accepting RJ wages to fly an Airbus. Unacceptable, degrading and shameful


Slight correction: Less than RJ wages....
 
Wait a NY minute. Who was it that negotiated this outsourcing?

Typical, the mainline drivers gives away more and more of their flying and then point fingers. I think you should read the thread again because you are way off topic here.

The thread was about Skybus (whom I don't give two ####s about) cancelling flights. Then a pilot makes a little subtle statement that maybe we shouldn't allow these Skybus pilots to get hired at the "good" airlines. That pilot flew jets on routes that used to be flown by mainline pilots for much lower wages, period. Mainline pilots made a mistake by giving away that flying. However, the rampant growth of the RJ has NOT been a great help in the career of the pilots at the "good" airlines. Sooooooo, some could look at it like pilots that did that flying aided in the erosion of this career. I don't hold a grudge for those folks that flew/fly RJ's. I would like to point out, however, that there is lots of blame to go around for the erosion of the profession (and I share that blame as well) and I find it hypocritical that someone who has "made it" one way should suggest that there should be people who should not "make it" another way. Having said that, people who have crossed a picket line should be labled, IMO.



This is not about routes that belong to a particular group or banner/colors. This is about accepting RJ wages to fly an Airbus. Unacceptable, degrading and shameful

I also found it unacceptable to go to work for the regionals when I was looking for work simply because I was making more flying King Airs. If that is the way you did it, fine by me. But once you make it, don't start a little grass roots campaign on who else should be hired and who should be excluded. That is the part that bothers me. There is virtually no one that doesn't have at least a little blood on their hands on this whole deal.
 
I also found it unacceptable to go to work for the regionals when I was looking for work simply because I was making more flying King Airs. If that is the way you did it, fine by me. But once you make it, don't start a little grass roots campaign on who else should be hired and who should be excluded. That is the part that bothers me. There is virtually no one that doesn't have at least a little blood on their hands on this whole deal.

You know, maybe if you flew for a real airline you could afford an Odyssey or Sienna. They're da bomb and all the soccer moms want one!

Nice color choice too.
 
You know, maybe if you flew for a real airline you could afford an Odyssey or Sienna. They're da bomb and all the soccer moms want one!

Nice color choice too.

Agreed, on all counts.
 
Skybus cancels more flights

Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:02 AM



Associated Press
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Discount carrier Skybus Airlines canceled ten flights Wednesday because of problems with two of its aircraft, a day after Christmas cancellations left scores of travelers stranded.
A door problem discovered on one plane late Monday was expected to be fixed before Wednesday evening, said Bob Tenenbaum, a Skybus spokesman.
A second plane was undergoing maintenance to repair damage to the fuselage behind the front entry door. The work could be finished by Thursday morning, but if not, further cancellations are likely, Tenenbaum said.
Round trips were scrubbed Wednesday between the company's hometown of Columbus and Milwaukee; Fort Lauderdale, Fla.; Bellingham, Wash.; Portsmouth, N.H.; and Gulfport, Miss. On Tuesday, Skybus canceled four flights.
Tenenbaum estimated that at least 1,000 passengers were affected by the service disruptions over the two days.
The airline was offering refunds for flights that were canceled and was making efforts to rebook travelers on later Skybus flights. But Skybus was unable to transfer passengers to flights on other airlines because it does not have those agreements with other carriers, Tenenbaum said.
The airline apologized to customers whose Christmas travel plans were ruined.
“This is terribly unfortunate, and the timing also is very unfortunate. I think people get accustomed to travel disruptions, but nobody likes to see them around Christmas,” Tenenbaum said.
Skybus launched service from its Columbus hub May 22, offering some seats for as little as $10 each way, plus taxes and fees.
Last week, it reported a loss of $16 million for the three months that ended Sept. 30.
The Dispatch Printing Company, publisher of The Dispatch, owns a minority stake in Skybus.

Skybus cancellations


Wednesday departures
Flight 270 to Seattle/Vancouver - 6:05 A.M.
Flight 87 to Ft. Lauderdale - 6:45 A.M.
Flight 28 to Milwaukee - 4:09 P.M.
Flight 7 to Boston - 7:17 P.M.
Flight 777 to Gulfport-Biloxi (New Orleans) - 8:03 P.M.
Wednesday arrivals
Flight 271 From Seattle/Vancouver 8:35 A.M.
Flight 88 From Ft. Lauderdale - 9:37 A.M.
Flight 27 From Milwaukee - 4:46 P.M.
Flight 8 From Boston - 9:19 P.M.

Thursday arrival
Flight 21 from Gulfport-Biloxi (New Orleans) - 12:24 A.M. (12/27)
Updated at 2 p.m., Wednesday

You get what you pay for. 10 dollars does not go as far as it use to.
 
OK let's get something straight here. Skybus doesn't go into Seattle or Vancouver, they go to Bellingham. They don't go to Boston, they go to Portsmouth NH. At least they correctly mention "New Orleans" as really being Gulfport/Biloxi MS.

Other Skybus misnomers: What they call San Francisco is really Oakland. What they call Hartford is really Chickopee, MA (WTF??). What they call New York is really Newburgh/Stuart. There are other ones. Am I the only one that finds these intentional misrepresentations annoying? I'd hate to be the little old lady that thinks she's going to LGA and ends up at Stuart with no way to get to the city.

Ask the city of Rockford, Illinois-- They named their airport the Chicago-Rockford Airport, it's only about 85 miles west of Chicago. Maybe that's why airlines can get away with it.
 

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