Skybus Cancels more Flights

[Filkster]

You take the train from Stewart to the city. The NY/NJ port authority bought SWF as a reliever airport to take traffic out of the city airports. This is how all the startups should do it. More paying pax for my employer..

RF

OK let's get something straight here. Skybus doesn't go into Seattle or Vancouver, they go to Bellingham. They don't go to Boston, they go to Portsmouth NH. At least they correctly mention "New Orleans" as really being Gulfport/Biloxi MS.

Other Skybus misnomers: What they call San Francisco is really Oakland. What they call Hartford is really Chickopee, MA (WTF??). What they call New York is really Newburgh/Stuart. There are other ones. Am I the only one that finds these intentional misrepresentations annoying? I'd hate to be the little old lady that thinks she's going to LGA and ends up at Stuart with no way to get to the city.

 

[realmanofgenius]

You can beat this up all day long. you still get what you pay for. that little ol lady will also have to tighten her scarf as the 30 knots winds and driving sheets of rain pound her from that noreaster while she trembles at walking down the two story, wobbly, scaffold-like stairs.

 

[Andy]

Don't blame Skybus. If you were starting a business and you had no trouble getting qualified pilots are the wages you offered, would you pay more?

The blame for redefining the bottom goes to the pilots who accept the job for that pay.

We aren't even close to the bottom of pilot wages. The next startup will have no problem lining up qualified pilots while paying less than Skybus.
Plan on every single pilot a minimum of 15% haircut due to the new retirement age. Supply and demand.

You may not see it in the next couple of years, but it will eventually hit every single pilot's wallet.

 

[Lear70]

I doubt it... I think Skybus is pretty much the bottom of how low people are willing to go.

The only qualifed people for street Captain slots for a startup are the RJ CA's or maybe Lear/Citation guys who can't get on with the fracs and they aren't going to take a permanent pay cut from what they currently make.

$65 an hour times 80 hours of credit is about the same that I make at one of the LESSER-paying Lear command gigs, and is well less than I would be making at most regionals as a 3-year CA.

Can't imagine any more than a few dreamers stuck at their regional with no hope of flow-through or major hiring jumping onto a questionable startup that will cost them money just to work (hotels every night) or require them to move into their domicile just to have enough money to pay the bills at a pay rate even less than they currently enjoy.

Ever seen those booths at AIR, Inc fairs that no one wants to work at? Kinda funny to watch, take some time next time you're there. Supply and demand is right, the supply of willing guys to make that jump is drying up with the Majors hiring in full-swing.

 

[bristolgone]

OK let's get something straight here. Skybus doesn't go into Seattle or Vancouver, they go to Bellingham. They don't go to Boston, they go to Portsmouth NH. At least they correctly mention "New Orleans" as really being Gulfport/Biloxi MS.quote]

Gulfport-Biloxi International Airport and the New Orleans Louis Armstrong Airport are not the same, about 75 miles apart.

Aircraft Damage??? What does sky bus expect when they will only ground load thier flights. Ground crews have to wheel these large walk ways up to the aircraft and position them perfectly to be able to deplane passengers. Recipe for accident.

 

[The Victors]

HOPEFULLY, one down and ony a few more to go including VA and Alligant

 

[imacdog]

Bellingham is clearly NOT a Seattle airport.

What, 100 miles can't be counted as a gimmie? :laugh:

 

[Lear70]

Not looking good for Skybus again today, although all the other carriers in and out of the Chicago/Milwaukee area are hosed as well...

The local news is slamming them pretty hard (I'm in a hotel in MKE waiting for our next trip).

"Skybus returns to Milwaukee after stranding thousands of passengers over the Christmas holidays. Now they are canceling flights again today as the snow grounds most flights in and out of the Milwaukee and Chicago area. Maybe that cheap ticket isn't worth it in the end. Back to you, Chris."

ROFLMAO!!

 

[Capn Mike]

I'd hate to be the little old lady that thinks she's going to LGA and ends up at Stuart with no way to get to the city.

Or like the lady who found out that after takeoff she was going to Ontario, California instead of Ontario Canada. Ouch!!! She bought the ticket online.

 

[Fins Up]

Or like the lady who found out that after takeoff she was going to Ontario, California instead of Ontario Canada. Ouch!!! She bought the ticket online.

I was standing at the gate in Portland, ME when a guy got off the plane and told me he meant to go to Portland, OR. He seemed to be a reasonably intelligent thirty-something year old guy. I felt bad for the guy. I think he made the res himself. He was supposed to be best man in a wedding the next day.

 

[crxpilot]

HOPEFULLY, one down and ony a few more to go including VA and Alligant

who are you,,,,,,,the town idiot?

 

[chperplt]

HOPEFULLY, one down and ony a few more to go including VA and Alligant

....and yet again.

We all now there are idiots among us and then one has to go and open its mouth and announce itself to the world.

 

[regionaltard]

....and yet again.

We all now there are idiots among us and then one has to go and open its mouth and announce itself to the world.

No foolin'. How could anyone even consider talking a little smack at an an industry leader like Allegiant after all they've done to get this thing turned around...

 

[wms]

LCCs get a bad rap!

 

[whymeworry?]

The fact that they have redefined a new bottom is what I find annoying.

Don't blame Skybus. If you were starting a business and you had no trouble getting qualified pilots are the wages you offered, would you pay more?

The blame for redefining the bottom goes to the pilots who accept the job for that pay.

What he said. But the blame further goes to our pilot groups when these guys and gals come over as new-hires. We just let them trot in as if their choices, that helped to bring down our profession, never ever happened.