Sky King Management Meeting

[DUATS]

Anyone attend the meeting between Sky King management and staff Thursday night at MIA? Waiting for management to provide details could be.....frustrating......

 

[flyprop]

So the CP and DO are both gone....whats the next step?

 

[pilotgolfer]

So the CP and DO are both gone....whats the next step?

Three planes just got flown to Roswell to return to lessor. So that leaves 5 airplanes and 65 pilots. You do the math and figure out what the next step is.

 

[flyprop]

I just heard about the planes today from a friend...that really blows. I really believed things were going to improve when they got out of BK

 

[thunderworm]

that sucks guys. hopefully this hiring boom will materialize soon.

 

[DUATS]

that sucks guys. hopefully this hiring boom will materialize soon.

...or they will find a way to get some additional aircraft. Ferrying from MIA to ACY on a daily basis is not a recipe for success.

 

[DUATS]

65 pilots. .

i hear it's down to 62: BR, LS, and a CQFO let go this week.

 

[cmij733]

Chapter 11 filed today, again.

 

[DUATS]

Chapter 11 filed today, again.

And over half the pilot group furloughed yesterday.

 

[pilotgolfer]

And over half the pilot group furloughed yesterday.

On a lighter note...my company phone still works and I found an awesome sex chat line that charges 10 bucks a minute. I think this girl really likes me. We've been talking ever since I got canned.

and starting at midnight, every hour on the hour, I call Cesar and ask him if he is sleeping.

 

[2Inverted]

On a lighter note...my company phone still works and I found an awesome sex chat line that charges 10 bucks a minute. I think this girl really likes me. We've been talking ever since I got canned.

and starting at midnight, every hour on the hour, I call Cesar and ask him if he is sleeping.

I don't know you or the company that you were with, but I like your thinking!
Best of luck!!

 

[cmij733]

Were those furloughs by seniority?

 

[pilotgolfer]

Were those furloughs by seniority?

NO no no no no

 

[cmij733]

With a single fleet type, how can the DO and Chief Pilot possibly justify out of seniority furloughs?

 

[HalinTexas]

On a lighter note...my company phone still works and I found an awesome sex chat line that charges 10 bucks a minute. I think this girl really likes me. We've been talking ever since I got canned.

and starting at midnight, every hour on the hour, I call Cesar and ask him if he is sleeping.

Dude,

I know where ya been. I know where you are. That's pretty funny.

They're hirin' in Asia!

 

[HalinTexas]

With a single fleet type, how can the DO and Chief Pilot possibly justify out of seniority furloughs?

Because they don't decide?

 

[flyprop]

So B Yari is going to try and find an investor?

 

[cmij733]

So the DO and Chief Pilot, both former ALPA pilots, aren't involved in the furlough decision making process? They do have input and hopefully some spine!

 

[pilotgolfer]

So the DO and Chief Pilot, both former ALPA pilots, aren't involved in the furlough decision making process? They do have input and hopefully some spine!

First of all...I haven't seen the final list of who remains. When the dust settles, I imagine there will be some out of seniority situations. Sky King is a non-union group in a right to work state. There is not a thing that anyone can say about it.

The BK filing is going to make it a moot point in a few weeks anyways. I don't see how they will be able to continue operations with only 4 or 5 airplanes.

If you were cut...just walk away. There will be no job to go back to.

 

[DUATS]

If you were cut...just walk away. There will be no job to go back to.

If you weren't cut, polish off the resume anyway. I agree that it will be tough to find additional capital with two BK's in three years.

 

[HOMER D POE]

sorry to hear this......stay positive, things will work out for you

 

[cmij733]

The mass terminations may qualify under the WARN Act. See the following link:

http://www.doleta.gov/programs/factsht/warn.htm

Without out a Union, the terminated employees should seek legal counsel either individually or through a class action.

 

[pilotgolfer]

Here is another link with some good info:

http://www.ehow.com/list_6395522_florida-layoff-laws.html

I specifically asked the HR ghoul why we were not given WARN notice and she claimed in Florida that it was not required. This is the same troll that told me they do not pay out vacation time...even though I had the paystub of a former employee which clearly showed a payout for vacation after he quit.

 

[HalinTexas]

You also have to be employed for a certain amount of time. This happened to me last year. I did get 2 weeks severance. (yippee for me.)

 

[DUATS]

New seniority list is out. It went from 63 names down to 46. Of those, 31 are captains. And new bid assignments are due out before the end of the week.

Any one want to speculate on downgrades?

 

[pilotgolfer]

New seniority list is out. It went from 63 names down to 46. Of those, 31 are captains. And new bid assignments are due out before the end of the week.

Any one want to speculate on downgrades?

It will be more fun to speculate on whether they make payroll on Friday.

 

[DUATS]

It will be more fun to speculate on whether they make payroll on Friday.

They did. As one of my favorite first officers says, "another 15 day contract."

However, they are yet to say anything about the per diem/overtime check due on the 25th. Something like, "Per diem isn't payroll, so it makes you an unsecured creditor who cannot be paid until the bankruptcy is resolved." No word at all on overtime, despite repeated emails.

 

[pilotgolfer]

They did. As one of my favorite first officers says, "another 15 day contract."

However, they are yet to say anything about the per diem/overtime check due on the 25th. Something like, "Per diem isn't payroll, so it makes you an unsecured creditor who cannot be paid until the bankruptcy is resolved." No word at all on overtime, despite repeated emails.

I'm glad they made payroll...there should have been a mass exodus of people had it not come through today.

I'm still waiting to see if any deposits show up for me. I just got off the phone with Blue Cross and they say my policy is still active and the Health Savings Account people say they just got a deposit today. That leads me to believe there might be some money coming my way??

 

[DUATS]

I'm glad they made payroll...there should have been a mass exodus of people had it not come through today.

I'm still waiting to see if any deposits show up for me. I just got off the phone with Blue Cross and they say my policy is still active and the Health Savings Account people say they just got a deposit today. That leads me to believe there might be some money coming my way??

My bank always posts a day or two early. Might not be until Monday since the 15th is on Saturday.

 

[CaptSeth]

BTW, closing a crew base on 12 hours notice is usually not a sign of good things to come. No moving expenses anymore, they threw out the rule book.

Not even 717's....

I'm just sayin'.....