Skip Barnette gone?? (ASA)

[homerjdispatch]

If Skywest blew the majority of it's cash reserve to buy ASA, and then tried to staple us, how long do you think they would survive with all of our planes parked (that's would be about half of the total new fleet)? Try to staple us and you will be looking for work at the same time we are.

So you park the planes, lose your jobs, and begin looking for a new job where you go back to the bottom anyway? Maybe I am missing something here.......

 

[jehtplane]

So you park the planes, lose your jobs, and begin looking for a new job where you go back to the bottom anyway? Maybe I am missing something here.......

Give it a rest Marge!

 

[Tomct]

I don't know who is worse.....front9 or homer? Both of which I could easily see crossing a picket line! NOT good for anyone! Skywest better tread very carefully with all of this talk! We all know it aint goin to happen anyway!

 

[Bluto]

Then why are you so wound up about it? Or are you just trying to convince yourself?

 

[homerjdispatch]

I don't know who is worse.....front9 or homer? Both of which I could easily see crossing a picket line! NOT good for anyone! Skywest better tread very carefully with all of this talk! We all know it aint goin to happen anyway!

Deep breaths, deep breaths!!!

How hard is it for a bunch of First Officers to ground the airplanes if you are all stapled to the bottom?

Also, you can't really be serious in thinking most of your pilot group will begin grounding airplanes do you? I mean you guys cant even get a contract with ASA management right now!


In out!

 

[shamrock]

Then why are you so wound up about it? Or are you just trying to convince yourself?

We get wound up because someone always has to start with the "staple" issue and turn any thread into a pissing match. There just seems to be a bit of "pre-gloating" going on here from out west when it comes to Skywest buying ASA. How about we all wait until it happens? Until then everyone should just STFU.

 

[Crash Pad]

Anyone been to ROA lately, saw some Skywest equipment and last I checked they don't fly there.

Just wettin' a line.

 

[jehtplane]

I don't know who is worse.....front9 or homer? Both of which I could easily see crossing a picket line! NOT good for anyone! Skywest better tread very carefully with all of this talk! We all know it aint goin to happen anyway!

I think they are all roomates with 410dude

 

[homerjdispatch]

Anyone been to ROA lately, saw some Skywest equipment and last I checked they don't fly there.

Just wettin' a line.

Nice try...Skywest groundhandles United Express in ROA.

 

[Freebrd]

OK, enough of the Skywest crap, and back on ole Skippy. Why some of you almost worship this piece of crap is beyond me. He has done nothing here at ASA except promote Skippy to the big dogs at DAL. Recall all the photo shots he had done over here on the ramp? Posing for pics! But, not a bad career for a former Delta ramper to ASA CEO nevertheless!

All Skip cares about is, well, Skip. He got his $$$ and now he's gone! Good ridance! Don't worry about Chuckwagon, he ain't gonna get the job either. DAL, if we haven't been sold yet, will bring another Delta 'retiree' over to take Skippy's place. How many 'retired' Delta execs do we have over here now anyway ??? Hey, maybe that craphead over at CMR will take over and try to get ASA pilots to grant concessions. Never happen! We ain't like those wimps and crybabies over at CMR! Or, maybe Lisa will take over!!!

FLY BY THE BOOK, WRITE UP BROKE PLANES, DON'T GIVE UP YOUR AUG VACATION, AND DON'T PICK UP TRIPS!!!! NO FAVORS!!!!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Alright - let's do a reality check now.

What are the pros and cons of a Skywest acquisition of ASA?

At the very least, ASA would be managed by a better group than the folks we have now.

Personally, I don't think either pilot group would benefit a windfall at the expense of the other. More likely, a merged pilot list would be based on the relative seniority of the individual pilots within their groups.

Also - Isn't it a good chance that the airlines would be operated independently for a period of time?

Just a few thoughts to ponder.

Interesting thoughts,
But given SKYW's out loud thoughts on employee longevity, I wouldnt bet on any blending of any lists. I would bet the largest amount on this scenario:
SKYW purchases ASA, announces that they will operate the two airlines as seperate but unequal. Whipsaw will be the order of the day, I think that the guys at ASA will be the whippees. ASA folks will dig in and the "burn the place to the ground" mentality will set in. SKYW will then make an internal announcement that any ASA pilots who wish to have a preferential interview will be welcome, the unspoken lure of a quick upgrade will cause many newer F/Os to come over as 1st year newhires, while senior Capts will go "fuk that" and quit. Which would make SKYW happy since those unhappy rabblerousers will be gone, which will allow SKYW to fill those F/O seats with Flight Info 1000/100 goobers who jack off to SKYW posters instead of Pamela Anderson flicks. While all this is going on SKYW mgmt. will be transferring assets from ASA to SKYW, starting with the 70's.SKYW will then put that ASA certificate in the top desk drawer for another day/scheme. In the meantime DAL has hit BK with a vengance, after they slash and burn the pensions, scope will be the next target(might even preceed the pensions). All in all I truly hope that none of the above happens no one on the labor side of this will win or even break even. Since this is our worst nightmare I would tend that some version of this will happen.
Wishing it wasn't even a thought.
PBR

 

[front9]

Hey Tomct we all had choices when picking an airline to work for...you just picked the loser, but then thats nothing new for you is it? Your position is F the Skywest pilots, we need to do what fair for Tomct. Well guess what, I'm in that same position too. F U and the seniority you rode in on.

You think a OO pilots seniority is nothing compared to your 3 years with ASA. Its only fair you get to keep your DOH and come in above all of the Skywest pilots cause you're better. You make me sick, if the shoe were on the other foot you would be here talking about staple and how ALPA's going to save you.
You cant change what happens at ASA and all of a sudden you're going to come to Skywest and take them down. AAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I laugh in your face sir, you are all talk and no action so sit there and keep typing about how YOU are going to take down the entire airline industry and put us all out of jobs. YOU are pitiful and weak - like little girl. Hope you enjoy the view from the bottom, it wont be so bad though, I'll buy you a cup of coffee when you're doing your walkaround the the Denver snow on first year F/O pay.

 

[sXeflyer]

Whats the first thing that bails from a sinking ship?? The f-ing rats!!!!

 

[rjcap]

Good luck to Skip. I liked him.

There was nothing to like. He was an empty kitchen.

 

[cfrey79]

Flight Info goobers

"which will allow SKYW to fill those F/O seats with Flight Info 1000/100 goobers who jack off to SKYW posters instead of Pamela Anderson flicks."

PBR,
That is awesome! I haven't laughed so hard reading this website since I joined. It's a sad but true statement.

 

[viper548]

PBR, that post was awesome

 

[atrdriver]

Also, you can't really be serious in thinking most of your pilot group will begin grounding airplanes do you? I mean you guys cant even get a contract with ASA management right now!


In out!

We haven't been released by the NMB, so we cans't legally do anything. Try to staple us to the bottom of your list and we aren't going to care about legal. We're going to be unemployed anyway, and so will eveyone else at Skywest. Be careful what you ask for.

 

[atrdriver]

Hey Tomct we all had choices when picking an airline to work for...you just picked the loser, but then thats nothing new for you is it? Your position is F the Skywest pilots, we need to do what fair for Tomct. Well guess what, I'm in that same position too. F U and the seniority you rode in on.

You think a OO pilots seniority is nothing compared to your 3 years with ASA. Its only fair you get to keep your DOH and come in above all of the Skywest pilots cause you're better. You make me sick, if the shoe were on the other foot you would be here talking about staple and how ALPA's going to save you.
You cant change what happens at ASA and all of a sudden you're going to come to Skywest and take them down. AAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I laugh in your face sir, you are all talk and no action so sit there and keep typing about how YOU are going to take down the entire airline industry and put us all out of jobs. YOU are pitiful and weak - like little girl. Hope you enjoy the view from the bottom, it wont be so bad though, I'll buy you a cup of coffee when you're doing your walkaround the the Denver snow on first year F/O pay.

No, we would be talking about a list integration, because it's in our contract. Sorry, but as bad as you guys as screwed the profession by flying up to 90 seats for 50 pay, we wouldn't try to screw you in a list integration.

 

[FlyAuburn]

If Skywest blew the majority of it's cash reserve to buy ASA, and then tried to staple us, how long do you think they would survive with all of our planes parked (that's would be about half of the total new fleet)? Try to staple us and you will be looking for work at the same time we are.

Amen to that.

 

[catIIIc]

ASA guys you will not be stapled, but don't expect DOH either, my guess is if you are 50%, 1% or 90% on the current list you are on that is where you will end up on the combined list. This is the only fair way to do it