Short of mins for SWA, Fed ex, UPS

[huronip]

Fly for free? Not sure that's the best idea...

Sounds good to me if you have no other options.

 

[NAAPilot]

Sounds good to me if you have no other options.

There are always other options. Have some pride in your occupation. As a professional pilot you shouldn't have to "fly for free" ever. This industry will never pay decent wages ever again as long as there are people out there who are willing to do this job for nothing.

 

[greenbayfan]

Instead of worrying who MIGHT hire you IF you meet their minimums WHEN they start hiring again......think about going into another field of work where the IF's, MIGHT's and WHEN's won't affect your life. Bottom line is, plan on staying where you are at for a good long time, because there are thousands upon thousands of guys with a helluva lot more experience than you lookn' at those same MIGHTS and WHENS....

 

[jonjuan]

because there are thousands upon thousands of guys with a helluva lot more experience than you lookn' at those same MIGHTS and WHENS....

Or get a sex change.

 

[waveflyer]

ok- back to the thread... where are you now that you can't work anywhere else? If you aren't timing out- why do you not want to report the flying? (There are lots of reasons guys fly on the side- it might not be a big deal to your current company) If it is a big deal- They may require it = but if you aren't caught and aren't breaking regs, why would you report it? Is your current job a 'career place' you want to hold on to til the end or can you quit there for a colgan/ great lakes type PIC gig? (Don't bother telling me you're too 'good' for that, or any other b.s.) Are you qualified for Virgin? they're hiring like crazy and you'll upgrade fast, have a marketable type, you could stay if they work out, and if not- you'll have the PIC time. There's options-- you just may have to fight a bit to do what's necessary. But it's the fight you chose to be willing to do by leaving the PIC job you had before you were fully qualified...

 

[JAM-BRO]

For those of us who will fly with the over 60 group, this is my suggestion.

Buy yourself a small digital cam and put it in your flight bag. Make sure you shut off the sound to the cam. When the geezer nods off after take off(you know they will), you pull out the digicam and film a video of them. Then it is off to the FAA.... BYE BYE

 

[JAM-BRO]

Or get a sex change.

Juan

Your avatar is beautiful...

 

[Tanker Clown]

I have my app in with SWA and I'm a little light on the PIC. I just kinda inflated the numbers a little. Chances are, they won't check that hard. My buddy just used a spread sheet that he made and they took his word for it.

 

[ALIMBO]

Fly what you want log what you need egh? I don't know about that.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Fly what you want log what you need egh? I don't know about that.

No one will ever know. I know a bunch of guys in the airlines that didn't have the mins. They took some liberties with the mil to civ conversion....bada boom, bada bing...they're on with UPS or SWA. I mean, I'm only talking fudging a couple hundred hours.

 

[TennJed]

For those of us who will fly with the over 60 group, this is my suggestion.

Buy yourself a small digital cam and put it in your flight bag. Make sure you shut off the sound to the cam. When the geezer nods off after take off(you know they will), you pull out the digicam and film a video of them. Then it is off to the FAA.... BYE BYE

Lamest idea I've ever heard. Besides, why should I interrupt MY nap time....

 

[AV80R]

Originally Posted by JAM-BRO

... Buy yourself a small digital cam and put it in your flight bag. Make sure you shut off the sound to the cam. When the geezer nods off after take off(you know they will), you pull out the digicam and film a video of them. Then it is off to the FAA.... BYE BYE


Wow, I'm sure you were kidding but if not... I could never do something like that. Sure, the baby boomer generation did rape their junior pilots but I stil couldn't betray a fellow pilot... Our generation is much better than the "meee meee" generation!

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

We have re-hired a whopping total of 16 retired pilots at Southwest. And hiring numbers straight from the Chief Pilot's mouth is 300 new hires. And you are correct about the 737 type. Unless you're REALLY well-connected, you simply won't get a call without the rating.

Hope this helps...

Just my opinion, but I don't think I could get called for an interview at SWA right now and I have around 3000 turbine 121 PIC, and 1000+ of that is in an MD80. Why? I am not typed in the 737, a lot of guys with 737 time and types are looking for jobs right now, and I would assume the age 60 rule has helped fill SWA's openings with former SWA pilots. The hiring window is about closed right now after being wide open about a year ago.

 

[Quimby]

No one will ever know. I know a bunch of guys in the airlines that didn't have the mins. They took some liberties with the mil to civ conversion....bada boom, bada bing...they're on with UPS or SWA. I mean, I'm only talking fudging a couple hundred hours.

nice flame.

 

[Beetle007]

Even if you fly for free it will often count against your part 121 flight time limitations and you would need to notify your company.

You have to ask yourself, could an appropriately rated private pilot fly those caravan flights? If not, then you are using your commercial certificate and are considered as flying for hire.

If memory serves me correctly, the FAA sometimes considers flight time as a form of compensation and has violated people even when they are "flying for free".