Serious question about GoJets

[AvJunke]

I have done a search on here because I am trying to figure out the real scoop on GoJets. I've read all the bashing........blah blah and all the computer tough guys who would tell them off at the airport. All that aside is GoJets a scab airline? People seem to use the term loosely and a union rep at my current employer has told me that they are not so I am trying to get the facts.

I know from reading the other post there is a ton of animosity between the group and Trans States. Being a member of a pilot group that was undercut by everyone anyway and not being able to upgrade has left me with few options so I am looking for the legitimate scoop on GoJets. Thanks to any serious responders.

 

[siucavflight]

They are a really good place to go. You should apply right away. You have flight sim 2000 time, so you will fit right in.

 

[lookin4better]

most guys that will say anything bad ( only on here ) are 3 year regional guys right out of their flight schools .......great people to give career managment advice

I have some great friends ,6-8 year FO s that left AE for GJ a while back.....they are ALL at the major of their choice now


break out the kleenex for all the crying that is about to commence

 

[smarc130]

I see you have no serious responder(s). nice avitar though, must be boring in that crashpad in indy hah.? ...anyway bro, Im checking for ya here off line, talk to ya tom. .. havent posted on here in a while....;-)

 

[AvJunke]

I see you have no serious responder(s). nice avitar though, must be boring in that crashpad in indy hah.? ...anyway bro, Im checking for ya here off line, talk to ya tom. .. havent posted on here in a while....;-)

I thought the lookin4better guy did okay. Seems to be a hot topic with some of these blokes who live on here. No one I know seems to know that much about the outfits in the midwest I have spoken to(including me). I know your looking into it, just have some decisions to make. BTW, how many Yankees got caught up in the steroid scandal again

 

[lookin4better]

thanks for the fun! I love this topic too.....you will keep up the kiddies all night

 

[flyf15]

GoJets is a great airline... for me to poop on.

 

[DoinTime]

I think the most basic question you have to ask yourself is are you willing to purposely step into a position of such animosity and conflict? Considering that an experience pilot in this industry can either come into a street captain position at many regional airlines or upgrade in about a year at many others why would you put yourself through that?

There is little doubting that many pilots view GoJet guys as scumbags and unfortunately you will be judged (either fairly or unfairly) for a decision to work there for the rest of your career. It only takes one slanted opinion to scuttle an opportunity at that dream job.

Why would anyone do that when they have a dozen other options?

 

[Traumahawk]

Goat-Jets is a menstral stain.

The original guys who went there sold out their brothers at TSA who were trying their best to stand up to Hulas' lorenzo like b%llshyte. The newer ones are equally as low for joining the ranks while knowing darn well what Ho-Jet really is.

It's as close to a scab airline as you can get. It approaches SCAB infinitely without ever touching it.

 

[CFIse]

It is not a scab airline, nobody at GoJets crossed a picket line (at least a picket line associated with GoJets).

The original GoJets pilots did assist in an attempt to break the union airline TSA which makes them not very nice people in a union sense.

Currently GoJets is a union airline (Teamsters right?) and anybody going there now is just fine (although I've got to believe the atmosphere over there isn't great, and it's not great to be a jumpseater either I'd guess). You have to draw the line somewhere, do we wish GoJets had never existed, yes, does it's continued existence remind us daily about how easily management can set pilots against each other, yes. But right now it's a union airline with, presumably, a union leadership fighting for the rights of their pilots along with the rest of the great unwashed brotherhood.

 

[RemoveB4Flght]

yes gojet pilots are union

yes gojet pilots have sucessfully moved on to other airlines

yes they seem to be quite happy to fly 70 seat jets at 50 seat wages

and yes, when you move on to bigger and better jobs there is a good chance you will work with one of them. just remember that there will come a time when you and your union brothers and sisters will have to stand strong against management, and these former lindberghers will be the first to break ranks and scurry over to mangements kool-aid stand to gulp down whatever is in the cup.

it's easy to see them in the terminals, they have those unmistakable red mustaches and sh*t-eating grins

 

[Traumahawk]

It is not a scab airline, nobody at GoJets crossed a picket line (at least a picket line associated with GoJets).

The original GoJets pilots did assist in an attempt to break the union airline TSA which makes them not very nice people in a union sense.

Currently GoJets is a union airline (Teamsters right?) and anybody going there now is just fine (although I've got to believe the atmosphere over there isn't great, and it's not great to be a jumpseater either I'd guess). You have to draw the line somewhere, do we wish GoJets had never existed, yes, does it's continued existence remind us daily about how easily management can set pilots against each other, yes. But right now it's a union airline with, presumably, a union leadership fighting for the rights of their pilots along with the rest of the great unwashed brotherhood.

Ahh how time lets so many forget. Oh well, they've been around long enough, we should leave them alone. Ask the TSA guys who were furloughed after Hojets started if they have the same attitude just because a couple years have gone by.

Here's a group of Union busting sellouts for shiny crj upgrades that hop over to the dark side, dust themselves off and then say, we better get a Union so our jobs are protected!

Unbelievable.

Go Jets folks don't get a ride, not even in the lav when it's overflowing after two back to back 2 1/2 hour round trips.

 

[CX880]

Honestly I don't get the point bashing. Isn't it because they're nonunion scabs who lowered qol for us all? Well they're union now, I'm looking at the payscales and their rates are almost the same as any other alpa crj7 operator. Most who I talk to don't know about gojets. At the end of the day I still have 9 days off in a month and have to flight for my contractual rights, what gives me or others the right to bash these guys, they're pretty much like any other place. Certainly not any worse.

 

[slackass]

Go to work for whatever company works best for you. Many go to the Majors from G-Jets, Mesa etc. Most working at the Majors have no idea what G-Jets even is as there are so many regionals now. As far as all the brotherhood talk, pilots are the first ones to sell each other out for their own interests. Especially with the latest "me" generation. Even the "gray beards" will sell out the less senior or the ones that aren't even hired yet for their own cause. You picked this job. (Some still call it a career) Follow your own path and good luck.

 

[capt1900]

Did I hear someone say kool-aid??

 

[Jack Mehoff]

avjunke is just another turd spoiled insync fan who wants to get to a major with out paying his dues and earning his place. I'm sure everytime he stamped and cryed mommy or daddy ran out and got him what he wanted.

The problem with your type is you will screw over others at your level to get to that magical boeing or bus as fast as possible. You don't care about pay because your funded by others. When hard times come to your Major you will be the first to cross a picketline or bust the union's efforts just to keep fly'n the boeing/bus.

Go shoot skybus a resume lil man you'd look great in a park ranger outfit!

and if you are even in cmh I got no problem tell it to your face you loser.

 

[agonyairfo]

I would not go to GOJets because I would lose my "street cred" on flightinfo.com.

That aside, I remember 5-8 years ago sitting in my Dash 8 with no hopes of upgrading or flying a jet and seeing TSA pull up at the gate next to me with a new ERJ painted in my parent company's colors. I remember thinking how I had specifically not wanted to work there because I was making more money. Their pay sucked and they hired with low mins. However, now they were being "rewarded" for being cheap.

That is in the past. I am sorry for what the original Go Jet guys did to TSA, TSA was trying to change things for the better. But it is hard for me to be too sympathetic towards TSA in light of their past.

 

[CFIse]

Ahh how time lets so many forget. Oh well, they've been around long enough, we should leave them alone. Ask the TSA guys who were furloughed after Hojets started if they have the same attitude just because a couple years have gone by.

Here's a group of Union busting sellouts for shiny crj upgrades that hop over to the dark side, dust themselves off and then say, we better get a Union so our jobs are protected!

Unbelievable.

Go Jets folks don't get a ride, not even in the lav when it's overflowing after two back to back 2 1/2 hour round trips.

I'm guessing, but the majority of pilots at GoJets are not union busting sellouts. They joined a company that had a union in place and a contract - how are we supposed to treat them?

 

[AvJunke]

avjunke is just another turd spoiled insync fan who wants to get to a major with out paying his dues and earning his place. I'm sure everytime he stamped and cryed mommy or daddy ran out and got him what he wanted.

The problem with your type is you will screw over others at your level to get to that magical boeing or bus as fast as possible. You don't care about pay because your funded by others. When hard times come to your Major you will be the first to cross a picketline or bust the union's efforts just to keep fly'n the boeing/bus.

Go shoot skybus a resume lil man you'd look great in a park ranger outfit!

and if you are even in cmh I got no problem tell it to your face you loser.

That's cute cupcake. 7 years in the right seat isn't paying my dues, huh? How many do you have chief? If I weren't in a position where I have paid too many "dues" and had been screwed more times than i can count by people like yourself I would have upgraded long ago and wouldn't be in a position where I would even have to consider a lateral move and come to a forum to find out about another airline I know nothing about.
However I did find your post funny. Thanks for the information from those familiar with the airline. Jack Mehoff,if I ever did decide to make a move and you came over and said something to me I would drop you where you stood, but if it makes you feel good to come on a web forum and insult others who are trying to get the facts...............well, that's just sad.

 

[AvJunke]

So the consensus is not a scab airline but pulled a pretty $hitty move a few years ago. Got it, thanks.