Seniority dispute ends at US Airways

[Metrojet]

Source: Azcentral

USAPA/US Airways
Speaking of the dysfunctional bunch over at US Airways -- the US Airways pilots -- the USAPA follies continue.

The union's latest propaganda effort, while it waits to hear the outcome of the airline's request for a declaratory judgment from an Arizona court, took place this week in Philadelphia, where about 150 US Airways pilots picketed the company.
Included in that group was the President of USAPA, Mike Cleary.

I find the union's timing for its picketing event telling for more than one reason. One -- they managed to get their friendly journalist, Ted Reed at TheStreet.com to write what amounted to not much more than a propaganda piece in which the point was hammered home that the company is the one that has been stalling on a new contract.

Right.

No, wrong.

The company has essentially been sitting on its hands while the braintrust (and yes, I do use that term very loosely) at the new union fights the pilots who used to work at America West over a seniority arbitration award that was delivered under the rules of the group's previous union, the Air Line Pilots Association.

As we all know, the US Airways East pilots didn't "like" the seniority award, and so, now, for almost five years, both pilot groups have suffered from not being able to renegotiate a new contract -- a result of the East pilots decertifying ALPA and setting up their own "independent" union.

The airline has said from the beginning that it will not negotiate and that it cannot negotiate a contract with the group until the issue of seniority is resolved between the two pilot groups.

Secondly, the timing of the picketing was even more ironic, especially given Cleary's comments to Reed, because the picketing in Philadelphia took place exactly on the same day that union leaders from all the employee groups at the airline were, in fact, scheduled to meet with management.

Cleary told Reed in the article, "US Airways has stalled negotiations so that employees are mired in bankruptcy-era contracts that were negotiated seven years ago. They have found excuse after excuse not to come to the table."

Really.

We read a letter that was forwarded to us by a union representative of another US Airways employee group, and it is clear that while telling TheStreet.com that the company has been "stalling negotiations," representatives of USAPA have also been the only union representatives not to meet with management on a regular basis as part of the airline's Labor Committee efforts that bring all union leaders together with management on a regular basis.

According to the letter we read, which appeared to be sent from US Airways CEO Doug Parker to Cleary, Cleary has missed the last two Labor Committee meetings. And he missed the meeting last week. Why? Because he was picketing.

As Parker explained in the letter, "The committee meets four-five times a year as a standing committee of the US Airways Board. I attend every meeting as do two other Board members and each union is represented by their leadership. We report on the discussion to the full Board meeting the next day."

As Parker noted in his letter, "I have found the Labor Committee to be helpful to our union-management relations and am glad we established it. It ensures we are all talking to each other regularly and the Board is apprised of our unions’ concerns. Of course, the process only works to the extent the union leaders participate. Fortunately, each of the union leaders other than USAPA’s has been great about attendance and participation. However, you personally have attended only one committee meeting since you’ve been USAPA’s President and, as we discussed previously, I think this hurts USAPA, our pilots, and US Airways."

Finally, Parker also made a point of noting,

"Unfortunately, it’s not just the Labor Committee that USAPA avoids. We also hold quarterly management-labor meetings around the time of earnings announcements to discuss, in a less formal environment, the issues surrounding US Airways and our labor unions. These meetings also are well attended by every union leader except you. While some of these meetings have more substance than others, it’s really the process of regular and consistent communication over time that helps to bridge gaps. Those union leaders that have regularly attended over the years have established much stronger relationships with their company and its management than USAPA has. This is not to suggest these relationships are particularly cozy – they often are not.

Some of the most confrontational conversations in which I’ve ever been involved have occurred at these labor committee and quarterly labor-management meetings, but at least we’ve had the conversations face-to-face and have left with a much better understanding of each other’s views and respect for each other’s perspective. Numerous positive changes have come out of these meetings for our unions and the people they represent and I am very glad we have them. I don’t believe you have attended a single one of these quarterly meetings."
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This is ridiculous.

Oh, and the flight attendants at US Airways? They, according to those close to the negotiations I have talked to, are very close to a new tentative agreement. If they do come to terms on a new tentative agreement, this will leave the ever-so-dysfunctional USAPA pilots as the only remaining employee group without a new contract.

Frankly, they have no one to blame but themselves.

C'mon Cowboy75 -

Your not really falling for this propaganda from a journalist who is just biased for DP are you? And - if you really believe the writer that says the AFA is close to a TA - then I wish you had read some letters from the CLT F/A's that was sitting around the crew room yesterday - the union and the company have been in talks for over a year and they thought they were close to a TA a year ago too. The letter states all the issues that the F/A's have in the "me -too" clause that they have with the pilots. The company wants to remove all of that language - and if you didn't know - F/A's are not covered by the FAR's as it relates to max duty/flight hours - so if they give that me-too clause up (which is what the company wants) they get screwed. How come the writer didn't mention that in his biased article?

Metrojet

 

[Cowboy75]

C'mon Cowboy75 -

Your not really falling for this propaganda from a journalist who is just biased for DP are you? And - if you really believe the writer that says the AFA is close to a TA - then I wish you had read some letters from the CLT F/A's that was sitting around the crew room yesterday - the union and the company have been in talks for over a year and they thought they were close to a TA a year ago too. The letter states all the issues that the F/A's have in the "me -too" clause that they have with the pilots. The company wants to remove all of that language - and if you didn't know - F/A's are not covered by the FAR's as it relates to max duty/flight hours - so if they give that me-too clause up (which is what the company wants) they get screwed. How come the writer didn't mention that in his biased article?

Metrojet

Metro,

The article was written by Dawn Gilbertson, reporter for the Arizona Republic. I met her while she reported in the DFRI trial in April 2009. She's has written numerous articles about US Airways and is familiar with the events.

Ted Reed, reporter for The Street was a former us air employee and you can draw your own conclusions on articles written with a bias slant.

I don't feel Dawn has an agenda. Ted?? Hmmm...

Remember that beer bet we have.

 

[Ocity]

This sounds more like Holly Hegeman. This was in the AZ republic?

 

[Cowboy75]

This sounds more like Holly Hegeman. This was in the AZ republic?

I was reading articles written by both Holly and Dawn. You are correct, the article was written by Holly Hegeman of PlaneBuzz/PlaneBusiness.

Thanks for the catch, Ocity.

 

[vetrider]

If it includes a gushing Sully love comment, it's Dawn. If not, Holly.

 

[Cowboy75]

If it includes a gushing Sully love comment, it's Dawn. If not, Holly.

True....

I think I confused Metrojet and wish to apologize to him in advance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7mIy97_rlo

 

[St. Nic]

ALPA Merger policy

Any pilot who is a merger representative in an announced merger shall be disqualified
from selection as a member of any Merger Arbitration Board. (AMENDED - Executive
Board May 1998)


"Their report also shows:
• Continental and United had held merger talks as far back as 2006.
• Smisek consulted with Continental's lead independent director -- Henry Meyer of KeyCorp -- when reports of the United-US Airways talks first appeared. The next day, Smisek called Tilton to urge United to switch its focus to Continental." How United, Continental negotiated a 'merger of equals'"]How United, Continental negotiated a 'merger of equals'[/url]

Nuetral pilots for the Usairway, America West pilots;

Pilot "nuetral" Brucia, Continental Airlines. Pilot "nuetral" Gillen, United Airlines.

 

[Cowboy75]

ALPA Merger policy

Any pilot who is a merger representative in an announced merger shall be disqualified
from selection as a member of any Merger Arbitration Board. (AMENDED - Executive
Board May 1998)


"Their report also shows:
• Continental and United had held merger talks as far back as 2006.
• Smisek consulted with Continental's lead independent director -- Henry Meyer of KeyCorp -- when reports of the United-US Airways talks first appeared. The next day, Smisek called Tilton to urge United to switch its focus to Continental." How United, Continental negotiated a 'merger of equals'"]How United, Continental negotiated a 'merger of equals'[/url]

Nuetral pilots for the Usairway, America West pilots;

Pilot "nuetral" Brucia, Continental Airlines. Pilot "nuetral" Gillen, United
Airlines.

Too late, this document has been accepted by the company. I'm sure you can find your name. Start at page 41. You can probably find your name between pages 74 and 76.

You'll find the frst America West pilot as number 518, P0001. You think that is fair?

http://www.awappa.org/Uploads/Nicolau Award.pdf

 

[Dizel8]

Took the time to read it, seems like a very well thought out document.

 

[charlie2]

Too late, this document has been accepted by the company. I'm sure you can find your name. Start at page 41. You can probably find your name between pages 74 and 76.

You'll find the frst America West pilot as number 518, P0001. You think that is fair?

http://www.awappa.org/Uploads/Nicolau Award.pdf

I guess you are saying that once a company "accepts" a section of a contract during negotiations that a union can't re-open it? Is this for any section at any time? I don't believe this is correct, but I'm no expert on negotiation rules.