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Scott Crossfield's C210 missing
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Yeager
Looks like Yeager is armchair quarterbacking him, just as he did in "the good ole days." While everything he said may or may not be true, it is truly without class that Yeager comes out with that just after the man didn't make his destination.
From CNN:
Crossfield was flying "in very bad weather," Yeager noted.
During their days as test pilots, he said Crossfield "being a civilian, had a lot more freedom than we did, as military guys. ... Sometimes he exceeded his capability and got in trouble."
Asked for an example, the 83-year-old Yeager said: "Flying in weather that he should have never been in."
Looks like Yeager is armchair quarterbacking him, just as he did in "the good ole days." While everything he said may or may not be true, it is truly without class that Yeager comes out with that just after the man didn't make his destination.
From CNN:
Crossfield was flying "in very bad weather," Yeager noted.
During their days as test pilots, he said Crossfield "being a civilian, had a lot more freedom than we did, as military guys. ... Sometimes he exceeded his capability and got in trouble."
Asked for an example, the 83-year-old Yeager said: "Flying in weather that he should have never been in."
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Honestly,, Yeager was my hero when I was young. Then I read the "rest" of the story.
And who was that civilian guy who blew through the sound barrier days before the General????
Seems now every time ol' Chuck opens his mouth these days he is an embaressment to me.
A civillian pilot? HA! Chuck couldn't wash Scott's shorts.
Hung
And who was that civilian guy who blew through the sound barrier days before the General????
Seems now every time ol' Chuck opens his mouth these days he is an embaressment to me.
A civillian pilot? HA! Chuck couldn't wash Scott's shorts.
Hung
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Hung Start said:
George Welch.
Gypped out of a medal of honor for his actions at Pearl Harbor. He and his flight leader took off on December 7th to defend without orders, and as such he was denied any decorations for his actions and kills that day.
Put the F-86 through mach 1 twice before the X1 did. One the day/days before and the other day-of if I recall correctly.
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That is truly sad.
Yeager should be publicly lowered to the place in history that has always been his: a notable P-51 ace and an also-ran from NACA and the USAF's early days. He's never come close to deserving the image of "aviation god" that the general public has bestowed upon him. What an a$$hole.
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Scott Crossfield
In addition to being an aviation legend, Mr. Crossfield was a gentleman; courteous, humorous, and never too busy to talk to a younger pilot. Since he was a naval aviator and flight test pioneer, I suggest that it would be appropriate to re-name Patuxent River NAS in his honor.
In addition to being an aviation legend, Mr. Crossfield was a gentleman; courteous, humorous, and never too busy to talk to a younger pilot. Since he was a naval aviator and flight test pioneer, I suggest that it would be appropriate to re-name Patuxent River NAS in his honor.
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I never finished Yeager's book. He was really stuck on himself. His ego would be an embarasment to a present day aviator thinking his military pilots were so much better than the civilians doing the same thing. Bob Hoover never had that arrogance. Chuck just loved Chuck. Too bad Scott didn't do his supersonic flight two weeks earlier.
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Yeager wasn't the first.
George Welch (another civilian test pilot) was the first man to break the sound barrier.
Judge the evidence for yourself:
http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch2.html
At the end of the article, the author gives an address you can write to give George Welch his due. I would ask that everyone do so. Maybe an unjustice that's been covered over for almost sixty years can be corrected.
George Welch (another civilian test pilot) was the first man to break the sound barrier.
Judge the evidence for yourself:
http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch2.html
At the end of the article, the author gives an address you can write to give George Welch his due. I would ask that everyone do so. Maybe an unjustice that's been covered over for almost sixty years can be corrected.
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Yeager wasn't the first
George Welch (another civilian test pilot) was the first man to break the sound barrier.
Judge the evidence for yourself:
http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch2.html
At the end of the article, the author gives an address you can write to give George Welch his due. I would ask that everyone do so. Maybe an unjustice that's been covered over for almost sixty years can be corrected.
George Welch (another civilian test pilot) was the first man to break the sound barrier.
Judge the evidence for yourself:
http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch2.html
At the end of the article, the author gives an address you can write to give George Welch his due. I would ask that everyone do so. Maybe an unjustice that's been covered over for almost sixty years can be corrected.
Crossfield was a true gentleman, here are two quotes from an article. There's a difference between what he says and that other pilot of note.
"We keep talking about test pilots, but there is no such thing as a 'test pilot,"' Crossfield said in a 1988 interview with Aviation Week & Space Technology. "They are all just people who incidentally do flight tests. ... We should divest ourselves of this idea of special people (being) heroes, if you please, because really they do not exist."
"I am an aeronautical engineer, an aerodynamicist and a designer," he told Aviation Week & Space Technology. "My flying was only primarily because I felt that it was essential to designing and building better airplanes for pilots to fly."
Compared with....
Yeager, reached at his home in California, said he was "sure sorry to hear" about Crossfield's death, but he wondered whether the pilot's penchant for taking risks might have been his undoing. During their days as test pilots, he said Crossfield "being a civilian, had a lot more freedom than we did, as military guys. Sometimes he exceeded his capability and got in trouble."
Asked for an example, the 83-year-old Yeager said: "Flying in weather that he should have never been in."
Which guy would you more care to emulate?
Fly Safe!
Lilah
"We keep talking about test pilots, but there is no such thing as a 'test pilot,"' Crossfield said in a 1988 interview with Aviation Week & Space Technology. "They are all just people who incidentally do flight tests. ... We should divest ourselves of this idea of special people (being) heroes, if you please, because really they do not exist."
"I am an aeronautical engineer, an aerodynamicist and a designer," he told Aviation Week & Space Technology. "My flying was only primarily because I felt that it was essential to designing and building better airplanes for pilots to fly."
Compared with....
Yeager, reached at his home in California, said he was "sure sorry to hear" about Crossfield's death, but he wondered whether the pilot's penchant for taking risks might have been his undoing. During their days as test pilots, he said Crossfield "being a civilian, had a lot more freedom than we did, as military guys. Sometimes he exceeded his capability and got in trouble."
Asked for an example, the 83-year-old Yeager said: "Flying in weather that he should have never been in."
Which guy would you more care to emulate?
Fly Safe!
Lilah
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