Saying "YOU SHOULD HAVE VOTED YES" doesn't make it OK.

[D'Angelo]

No matter what you do theres always a pilot group saying look at that flying over thurrrrre! There are tards about to strike lets go get that flying cause those tards wont make a difference anyway ALA ASA.

 

[Smarta$$]

I can agree with that. But I don't think you have to be somewhere 7 years.



What about an alter-ego clause?

Average regional upgrade 3-5 years and another 2-3 to get enough PIC just to have a chance of getting noticed, but probably still not enough. We had a no alter ego clause and it did not work for us at TSA.

 

[Smarta$$]

Wont be here in ten years....wont be here in two....regionals are not structured to stay for a career and retire...sooner you learn that the better.

You should've voted yes.

Yes you will be there in 2 years. You say you couldnt get noticed by another regional before goatjet, well no you will not get noticed by a major.

You have justified nothing. You still F-ed the Trans States pilots

 

[rsspilot]

thats a long road to citation shares you are taking. I won't stop you. You will stop yourself. Good luck with that.

Doesnt have to be citation shares....could be anywhere. The point is that no one thinks that there is anything wrong with taking a regional airline job. They all get paid the same....fly the same equipment and are a great experience builder.

The point is that we all take a regional job to build our experience thus making us better pilots and more competitive in the job market.

Those of you that have chosen your career at a regional are there obviously for more than pay reasons so I cant help but wonder why a pay issue is why you would bash other unemployed pilots for taking a job that allows them to make a small living and better there future for themselves and their families.

Maybe you should try try being more compassionate for others that are unable to take jobs that pay the awsome wage that you get at trans states and be happy that they are able to get any job at all....after all, this is what this great country is about.

Should've voted yes.

 

[redbook]

Doesnt have to be citation shares....could be anywhere. The point is that no one thinks that there is anything wrong with taking a regional airline job. They all get paid the same....fly the same equipment and are a great experience builder.

.

What?

You joined an alter ego. They are most definitely not all the same.

As far as you going "anywhere". More likely: nowhere.

Should have said No to g0jet.

 

[rsspilot]

What?

You joined an alter ego. They are most definitely not all the same.

As far as you going "anywhere". More likely: nowhere.

Should have said No to g0jet.

You have yet to show one intelligent reason to say no to gj. I was told by Net Jets after a friend walked in my resume that I needed 121 experience because that is the flying backround that they are looking for. I dont remember it saying anything about ALPA being required.

Your getting your experience....why so bitter that others are getting their's?


YOU SHOULD HAVE VOTED YES. Greed got the better of you. ....you said no to a great opportunity and everyone understands this.

Going Nowhere? A friend of my dads is a Chief Pilot at Continental....and it was his son that got me on at gj.....so why would i listen to a bitter RJ pilot over a Mainline Chief Pilot.

 

[ricecake]

Your getting your experience....why so bitter that others are getting their's?

I would be getting experience except that I'm furloughed because of guys like you.

 

[rsspilot]

I would be getting experience except that I'm furloughed because of guys like you.

U are not furloughed because of me....you're furloughed because your brothers said no and threw you in front of the bus. (notice that they are still building jet PIC). I can get you a job at gj. If you are not interested than you should be happy about your situation and not feel compelled to blame others for YOUR decision.

 

[ricecake]

U are not furloughed because of me....your furloughed because your brothers said no and threw you in front of the bus.....I can get you a job at gj. If you are not interested than you should be happy that your furloughed and not need to throw mud at me.

No thanks

 

[rsspilot]

No thanks

Good luck with everything...im sure you'll get called back soon.

 

[redbook]

Good luck with everything...im sure you'll get called back soon.

Good luck to you, I am sure you will get a call soon for that next job you are planning on.

 

[redbook]

YOU SHOULD HAVE VOTED YES. Greed got the better of you. ....you said no to a great opportunity and everyone understands this.

Going Nowhere? .

"Everyone understands?" everyone at the alter ego g0jet?

Your lowlife nature got the better of you. You should have said no to g0jet.

You are going places now alter ego g0jet pilot!

 

[rsspilot]

"Everyone understands?" everyone at the alter ego g0jet?

Your lowlife nature got the better of you. You should have said no to g0jet.

You are going places now alter ego g0jet pilot!

U will never understand cuzz your getting yours......I like flying at gj...end of statement...not about going anywhere else right now........why dont you come up with a new line....explain to others that want to work for an airline, want to get experience and enjoy something more than flying lousy frieght equipment at all ungodly hours of the evening. Explain to me and everyone else why gj isnt living the dream....compared to the previous crap of a flying job.......lets hear it RedBook because the alter ego, scab, stepping all over your fellow pilots doesnt fly here. That dog dont hunt. You can bag on us because you have that job....flying nice equipment.....getting crew experience and flying for an 121 operator. Getting to sleep at night instead of dodging thunderstorms at 16000 ft with no radar. Pulling an airlplane out at midnight in casper wyoming in the winter when its 3o below windchill factor and snowdrifts four feet high against the hanger.

Keep it up redbook....im feeling less and less sympathy for you and your brothers in arms that voted no and put your younger pilots out of work.

It should have been the No votes that got furloughed first because the yes votes just wanted to be pilots and didnt want to get into the stupid politics of a powerless union.

 

[Shrek]

Do you really think you DESERVE a PT121 job after a year of freight if that?!

Used to be a time when 2000 mins were normal...........CFI/II/MEI. It is called EXPERIENCE.........yeah the industry doesn't support that theory right now so there are HUNDREDS of RJs out there with the line CPT being the IOE trainer without the pay that a checkairmen gets.

Ok.....let's fast forward to now- what a 1000 total sometimes less and you are on with a good regional? What makes you think any less than that makes you ENTITLED to a job. You took the bait and will pay in the long run.........it's a fact. IF you would have waited a 6 months I bet you would have the time to get on with a legitimate carrier and not slit the throats of your "sister" company.

People are watching to see the outcome....MGT AND Pilots. Your side would be the MGT side that wants to "streamline" costs until labor is at poverty level. Ours is a whole different world - one that believes that a wage should be fair and equitable with the services being performed. Not alot of people want to stay at this level forever..........thank yourself because you helped make that a reality in the long run for some pilots down the road.

You will NEVER get it until one day you think to yourself......man I have plenty of time in that SJS 70 seater. Why is nobody calling me for an interview.

Even better yet.....being at that "dream" job interview and you see a pilot that asks you to explain the G0Jet situation--------it may be me --------it may be somebody else but we WILL NEVER forget what you did to our professional lives in the short term.

I am sure your Dad is proud...you have just drug your name through the mud-------something that just sticks forever.

All a man has is integrity-------you have given that up the first day of indoc.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

Here's rsspilots post with a different spin. The point is never mess with another mans lively hood.

U will never understand cuzz your getting yours......I like Doing other guys wives...end of statement...not about going anywhere else right now........why dont you come up with a new line....explain to others that want to get some action, want to get experience and enjoy something more than looking at porn at all ungodly hours of the evening. Explain to me and everyone else why doing other guys wives and stealing his livelyhood isnt living the dream....compared to the previous wacking all night.......lets hear it RedBook because the alter ego, scab, stepping all over your fellow pilots doesnt fly here. That dog dont hunt. You can bag on us because you have a girl....with nice equipment.....getting laid and not talking to a phone sex operator. Getting some action in the bedroom instead of being turned down by every chick on the net. Pulling out at midnight in casper wyoming in the winter when its 3o below windchill factor and snowdrifts four feet high against the hanger and not a street walker in sight.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

YOU SHOULD HAVE VOTED YES. Greed got the better of you. ....you said no to a great opportunity and everyone understands this.

Its not about greed, its about being paid what your worth. TSA was making money just like every other regional out there. We have all been through alot to get where we are. I have been in this industry for over 12 years now and seen it go down down down. All flights are full. The true Greed is the Corporate greed at TSA. Basically they wanted to keep a 15% profit instead of a 13%profit. Look at the equipment you operate, look at the service that is provided, and how can you say that anyone should be willing to fly for any less than they are.

Not everyone has a little butt buddy friends dad who is the Chief at Continental. Many people are at the regionals for a while, do the math.

 

[punkpilot48]

U are not furloughed because of me....you're furloughed because your brothers said no and threw you in front of the bus.

You know what Im getting sick of this and Im calling you out. You arent who you say you are. And you havent been listing to what people are saying. Hell I used to live in a crashpad with people like you just did this for fun to rile people up.

Or prove me wrong if you are a GJ pilot lets see some facts.

And a fact isnt I shouldve voted yes.

And some history for you since you arent a GJ pilot. Even if TSA voted yes TSA pilots would still be on furlough right now.

 

[redbook]

U will never understand cuzz your getting yours......I like flying at gj...end of statement...not about going anywhere else right now........why dont you come up with a new line....explain to others that want to work for an airline, want to get experience and enjoy something more than flying lousy frieght equipment at all ungodly hours of the evening. Explain to me and everyone else why gj isnt living the dream....compared to the previous crap of a flying job.......lets hear it RedBook because the alter ego, scab, stepping all over your fellow pilots doesnt fly here. That dog dont hunt. You can bag on us because you have that job....flying nice equipment.....getting crew experience and flying for an 121 operator. Getting to sleep at night instead of dodging thunderstorms at 16000 ft with no radar. Pulling an airlplane out at midnight in casper wyoming in the winter when its 3o below windchill factor and snowdrifts four feet high against the hanger.

Keep it up redbook....im feeling less and less sympathy for you and your brothers in arms that voted no and put your younger pilots out of work.

It should have been the No votes that got furloughed first because the yes votes just wanted to be pilots and didnt want to get into the stupid politics of a powerless union.

I will keep it simple for you alter ego pilot.

TSA pilots spent years building their airline. Their management created an alter ego company to whipsaw them and drive down their future career. After years of hard work making profits for TSA, g0jet was created and staffed with scumbags like you.

I don't care if you like it at g0jet. You are an alter ego pilot that is forever marked.

Go try your alter ego game at Fedex. Tell them that you will fly the A380 for less and start with zero seniority. How do you think that will go over?

Oh, but you would "like" your job at Fedexg0jet. It wouldn't be ok there, and its not ok here.

Don't pretend you don't know what you did. You are just proving what a lowlife you are.

 

[rsspilot]

Redbook You crack me up... You actually think that all these pilots out there who are flying for the majors and large freight operators give a crap about your little issue... threatening me on the internet saying I will never get a good job outside of gojet... What you forget is I work in the same industry and have friends also. Most people outside of this crappy forum don't care... You spend soo much time at this site bitching, you have really lost touch with reality. Just because you see it on flightinfo doesn't make it true. Keep going slinging the mud. I guess it makes you feel better, but man what a waste of time..

 

[BuzzSaw]

Lets show solidarity with our MEC and let them do their jobs!!!

BL can have his stock options and Chuck can have his Delta retirement. Skywest can park every aeroplane out in the desert for all I care.

My knowledge, experience and professionalism costs something, $$$$.

Aviation Career Advice; Never depend on the airline for a living...
Start a side occupation now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buzz Saw

 

[redbook]

Redbook You crack me up... You actually think that all these pilots out there who are flying for the majors and large freight operators give a crap about your little issue... threatening me on the internet saying I will never get a good job outside of gojet... What you forget is I work in the same industry and have friends also. Most people outside of this crappy forum don't care... You spend soo much time at this site bitching, you have really lost touch with reality. Just because you see it on flightinfo doesn't make it true. Keep going slinging the mud. I guess it makes you feel better, but man what a waste of time..

Your "friends" have watched you steal seniority at one airline. Nobody will want you at their airline.

What is your plan for the future? Which alter ego do you want to join next? Would you "like" to join an alter ego for Fedex? Ups?

You are the one trying to create your own "reality" at g0jet. Sorry buddy, nobody in the industry is fooled, and I don't think you are when you look in the mirror.
You are right about one thing: posting lies on this message board just doesn't make it so.

Liar heed your own advice.

 

[redbook]

well rsspilot you didn't respond, so I will post it again.

Go try your alter ego game at Fedex. Tell them that you will fly the A380 for less and start with zero seniority. How do you think that will go over?

Oh, but you would "like" your job at Fedexg0jet. It wouldn't be ok there, and its not ok here.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

Redbook You crack me up... You actually think that all these pilots out there who are flying for the majors and large freight operators give a crap about your little issue... threatening me on the internet saying I will never get a good job outside of gojet... What you forget is I work in the same industry and have friends also. Most people outside of this crappy forum don't care... You spend soo much time at this site bitching, you have really lost touch with reality. Just because you see it on flightinfo doesn't make it true. Keep going slinging the mud. I guess it makes you feel better, but man what a waste of time..

rsspilot, how long have you been in this industry?

This is an extremely small world when it comes to aviation. Believe it or not most of the pilots out there are not on this forum and most of them are against you and all the other Go----s piles. Your vision of you leaving in a year for greener pastures are inaccurate.

Let me ask you this. Is it possible that maybe some of the TSA guys will move on to a better place? I think so. Is it possible that maybe at some other (better companies) have employees that a friend,son, daughter, nephew was screwed by GJ? I think so. All it will take is one person to keep you from getting that dream job. But what do you care, after all your "living the dream" where your at.

So maybe some crusty old farts who are at the majors now, that are going to retire in a few years don't know about you guys and don't care. Its your brothers to your left and right that will be making up those positions in the future. Unless every descent airline, fractional,flight school, and pizza place are made up of ex GJ, your in for a rude awakening down the road. 90%of the regional pilots are against your company and what you stand for.

That is how this industry works

 

[rjacobs]

I have a very good friend at CS right now and they have the scab list and GJ is not the only airline with names on it from what he says. So good luck going to CS, your gonna need it.

 

[subin30]

rsspilot,

Ok you homo. You win! TSA looses... you win! you the man... you happy? now stop wasting our freakin time with your retarded post and go play with your gayjet friends.

 

[rsspilot]

rsspilot,

Ok you homo. You win! TSA looses... you win! you the man... you happy? now stop wasting our freakin time with your retarded post and go play with your gayjet friends.

Wow You kiss your mother with that mouth...
This post shows the kind of people we are dealing with on this forum.
Next time you want to get your point across. try forming a sentence and using some intelligent thought.. people will take you a lot more seriously.
Sticks and stones.

 

[rsspilot]

rsspilot, how long have you been in this industry?

This is an extremely small world when it comes to aviation. Believe it or not most of the pilots out there are not on this forum and most of them are against you and all the other Go----s piles. Your vision of you leaving in a year for greener pastures are inaccurate.

Let me ask you this. Is it possible that maybe some of the TSA guys will move on to a better place? I think so. Is it possible that maybe at some other (better companies) have employees that a friend,son, daughter, nephew was screwed by GJ? I think so. All it will take is one person to keep you from getting that dream job. But what do you care, after all your "living the dream" where your at.

So maybe some crusty old farts who are at the majors now, that are going to retire in a few years don't know about you guys and don't care. Its your brothers to your left and right that will be making up those positions in the future. Unless every descent airline, fractional,flight school, and pizza place are made up of ex GJ, your in for a rude awakening down the road. 90%of the regional pilots are against your company and what you stand for.

That is how this industry works

I commute to work everyweek and I must be lucky enough to only deal with that 10%.

 

[subin30]

Wow You kiss your mother with that mouth...
This post shows the kind of people we are dealing with on this forum.
Next time you want to get your point across. try forming a sentence and using some intelligent thought.. people will take you a lot more seriously.
Sticks and stones.

Like I said, You win!

 

[temcgrew]

Wow You kiss your mother with that mouth...
This post shows the kind of people we are dealing with on this forum.
Next time you want to get your point across. try forming a sentence and using some intelligent thought.. people will take you a lot more seriously.
Sticks and stones.

Please take the knife out of our backs and give it back your mother.

 

[redbook]

still no reply rsspilot? This is the third time. No reply because you have no answer.

well rsspilot you didn't respond, so I will post it again.

Go try your alter ego game at Fedex. Tell them that you will fly the A380 for less and start with zero seniority. How do you think that will go over?

Oh, but you would "like" your job at Fedexg0jet. It wouldn't be ok there, and its not ok here.