SAPA "Negotiations" Update

[Nevets]

But but SkyWest is non-union! Where do they have leverage to pay 20 year CRJ-900 Captains at $112/hr?

From the union pilots at other carriers. They even get known crewmember and they are non-union!

 

[Flyer1015]

From the union pilots at other carriers. They even get known crewmember and they are non-union!

No. The general consensus is union regionals are better and more protected for pay and QOL. What about Skywest. 9E got totally screwed in BK and struggled for 6 years under amendable date to get a new contract. Skywest has gotten payraises and such.

 

[Flyingdutchman]

What amazes me is how some ExpressJet pilots love to hate SkyWest.. How many SkyWest pilots here on FI and APC would start topics about ExpressJet dispatch, fo's helping rampers out and internal 'union' newsletters trying to make ExpressJet look stupid or less? ... 0

This tells me much more about certain individuals at ExpressJet than it does about SkyWest as a company..

 

[BobbyBiplane]

Grow a pair and move on. Otherwise, shut the F:!k up.


I have no sympathy for folks who complain about the regional business while accepting the pay and flying the machines. As long as you continue to show for work, YOU are the problem.


Bob

 

[Nevets]

No. The general consensus is union regionals are better and more protected for pay and QOL. What about Skywest. 9E got totally screwed in BK and struggled for 6 years under amendable date to get a new contract. Skywest has gotten payraises and such.

Well, you said it yourself. Pinnacle was in bankruptcy. If they had no union, management would have screwed them even worse. The fact is that Skywest management gives you enough to keep you non-union. The mere fact that others are unionized and Skywest isn't, helps the skywest pilots. Thus, that's how you they ride the coat tails. Everyone else is trying to fight for better with intransigent management.

You can't have it both ways. If unionized pilot groups have NEVER helped the non-unionized ones, then you can't blame the unionized ones for bringing down the non-unionized ones.

PS. Even though you conveniently ignored it, I'll say your welcome anyway.

 

[CFIT]

Myself and many others at SkyWest that went through all of the union drives would like to be union, just not ALPA.

That being said I think a union drive today would win but it been said that ALPA has lost so bad they won't try it.

Fact is ALPA is in it for the money so they are going to look out for their cash cow(s), the legacies. If ever something comes between a regional and a legacy ALPA has always sided with the money.

 

[bmpilot2003]

Grow a pair and move on. Otherwise, shut the F:!k up.


I have no sympathy for folks who complain about the regional business while accepting the pay and flying the machines. As long as you continue to show for work, YOU are the problem.


Bob

Rrrriiggghhhttt..... Says the guy who created a "B Scale" to fly the little jet!

 

[Ops check good]

What amazes me is how some ExpressJet pilots love to hate SkyWest.. How many SkyWest pilots here on FI and APC would start topics about ExpressJet dispatch, fo's helping rampers out and internal 'union' newsletters trying to make ExpressJet look stupid or less? ... 0

This tells me much more about certain individuals at ExpressJet than it does about SkyWest as a company..

^^^this guy gets it, end thread right here.

 

[Flyer1015]

Well, you said it yourself. Pinnacle was in bankruptcy. If they had no union, management would have screwed them even worse. The fact is that Skywest management gives you enough to keep you non-union. The mere fact that others are unionized and Skywest isn't, helps the skywest pilots. Thus, that's how you they ride the coat tails. Everyone else is trying to fight for better with intransigent management.

You can't have it both ways. If unionized pilot groups have NEVER helped the non-unionized ones, then you can't blame the unionized ones for bringing down the non-unionized ones.

PS. Even though you conveniently ignored it, I'll say your welcome anyway.

I don't think they could screw them any worse than say 'take this or be out of a job' and yet it happened to a union carrier. One ALPA carrier's contract (Delta) spelled the job loss of tons of regional pilots, also represented by ALPA. There's a huge conflict of interest. Anyway, Skywest hasn't just paid its pilots "just enough" to keep a union off. They've paid higher than even their average union regional counterpart.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Grow a pair and move on. Otherwise, shut the F:!k up.


I have no sympathy for folks who complain about the regional business while accepting the pay and flying the machines. As long as you continue to show for work, YOU are the problem.


Bob

Wow,
There is really one other guy who gets it...