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yeah you guys think the new DL will keep over 12,000 pilots?
Do you guys think DL is going to fly over 1500 aircraft? That is with all the DCI Carriers?
Each "unit" is made up of pilots that want their airline to succeed. This means other airlines wont succeed. It's the free market. There is no job guarantee in any industry even heavily unionized industries.
How would you handle the pilots of a dying airline that is selling its aircraft or goes chapter 7 or is no longer competitive and must shrink.
Pretty easy. The plumbers, steamfitters and insulators in my family seem to be a little more intelligent than this "pilot". They put everyone on the "bench" in seniority order and when a job is available at one of the union shops, of which 90+% are union, the most senior person gets it. From my observation the companies like airlines don't shut down because of lack of work, its because of piss poor management. The tradesmen are almost always picked up immediately by another company. My brother was layed off about 2 months ago (the company went under because the owners gambling habit) and he had calls from other companies in exactly 12 minutes. How is this done? The union immediately called every employer and notified them that he along with others were being layed off. The people on the bench can't push junior people out of their job but when a job is available the job goes to the most senior tradesmen who is available to work.
Thats great if other airlines are hiring. Not much of that going on right now.
I have a brother-in-law who is an electrician and member of the union. When he works he has great pay and benefits. Unfortunantly, he only gets work about 4 months a year. The rest of the year he must come up with something else to do.
Sucks being junior. He also doesn't have to go through 2 months of training every time he changes companies.
Can you imagine being a junior pilot under your system? You would just go from one furlough to the next.
It is alredy standard practice at most ALPA carriers to do whatever posible to promote the hiring of fuloughed ALPA pilots. The problem, again, is that when airlines are furloughing the others usually aren't hiring.
To make what you want work you will need a national contract and seniority list. What gun do you think we can hold to every airline management's head to accomplish this task? How much collective bargaining power would be given up to get this and for how long would these concessions last?
How much chance of a strike would exist under this utopia? It is already hard to get the government to not interfere with a strike. Every future contract would end in arbertration.
Again, these airlines don't follow the law and we are why? To be the bigger man or professional? Sorry that doesn't put food on the table. Do you think the tradesmen have what they have by following the rules? Too many pilots and ALPA get wrapped up in image. Lets face it we are blue collar grunts who do a job that few people can or want to do and thus should be paid accordingly.
Many pilots already are going from furlough to furlough. How many pilots in NWA's, Hawiian or Delta's most recent classes have been furloughees? If this was a real union it would be 100%. What happened to Prater's "when one pilot has a problem all pilots have a problem" bs. I think a furlough would go under the classification of a problem. If nonfurloughed pilots are getting hired at ALPA carriers I think it's wrong and if non-ALPA members are getting hired at ALPA carriers while ALPA brothers are jobless then I think it shameful. If it takes negoatiation capital on my part to make the company hire furloughed ALPA brothers so be it.