*Rumor* OO/EV to start "at risk" Florida flying?

[Uncle Bunkle]

There's a bunch of tools over at XJT and also at Air Wisconsin who all think they are getting this flying...HA!!!! What a bunch of clowns, always think they're better than everyone else, but they're just too damn expensive to ever get new flying. Clowns...

 

[planedriver]

There's a bunch of tools over at XJT and also at Air Wisconsin who all think they are getting this flying...HA!!!! What a bunch of clowns, always think they're better than everyone else, but they're just too damn expensive to ever get new flying. Clowns...

Maybe you are too damn cheap! W H O R E S...

 

[Av8trix616]

So I hear ASA will be flying 20 CRJ200's for United out of IAD with a mx base in CAE for them. Not sure if IAD will be a base or CAE be a base and fly through IAD. Sorry to put another log on the rumor fire but was told by ________ in the GO

Do you guys suppose this would generate a recall (at least partial), or would a PBS passage negate the need for any additional pilots?

 

[79%N1]

Well, ASA is already currently flying those planes.....and there are still furloughs and downgrades. This would only offset future losses.

It would also be MUCH cheaper for ASA to do this flying because there are already planes. Anybody else would have to get more a/c.

 

[OCP]

So I hear ASA will be flying 20 CRJ200's for United out of IAD with a mx base in CAE for them. Not sure if IAD will be a base or CAE be a base and fly through IAD. Sorry to put another log on the rumor fire but was told by ________ in the GO

Flybozz your avatar is crazy awesome!

ASA already moved most of its MX outstations to CAE.

 

[big shacks]

Bloody 'ell.

Oh, and Mesaba Sucks![/QUOTE],


Sorry about XJ denying you a job!!!! Let me know when you're done bleeding because we might be hiring in two years. You should be done with your menstrual cycle by then.

 

[Silent Partner]

believe it when you see it

 

[flyrunner80]

ASA already moved most of its MX outstations to CAE.

Yeah I know that. CAE was going to play some role in the operations. Either as a MX base for the aircraft flying for United or as a crew base. Not sure if ASA moved MX to CAE for this reason but kinda makes someone wonder.

 

[Abernathy]

Yeah I know that. CAE was going to play some role in the operations. Either as a MX base for the aircraft flying for United or as a crew base. Not sure if ASA moved MX to CAE for this reason but kinda makes someone wonder.

IF we get United flying, why would CAE be a crew base if the flying will be out of IAD...I don't follow.

 

[USCtrojan]

IF we get United flying, why would CAE be a crew base if the flying will be out of IAD...I don't follow.

It's a perfect in between point from IAD and ATL. You could shuttle crews either way based on demand. That's how I see it. Additionally, IAD has been a problem in the past for INC. because of flow of aircraft. With ATL and CAE that's no longer a problem. I hope Inc. can find flying for those 20 aircraft and hopefully more so we can bring back our own.

Trojan

 

[Data]

IF we get United flying, why would CAE be a crew base if the flying will be out of IAD...I don't follow.

Mesa has a MX base there to support the IAD flying that is possibly up for grabs and what Trojan said.

 

[Baronman]

It's a perfect in between point from IAD and ATL. You could shuttle crews either way based on demand. That's how I see it. Additionally, IAD has been a problem in the past for INC. because of flow of aircraft. With ATL and CAE that's no longer a problem. I hope Inc. can find flying for those 20 aircraft and hopefully more so we can bring back our own.

Trojan

Man talk about being hopeful. You could pick any number of airports that are in between IAD and ATL to fit your dream.

Bottom line is that nobody knows anything and anyone who says they do is full of it.

 

[USCtrojan]

Man talk about being hopeful. You could pick any number of airports that are in between IAD and ATL to fit your dream.

Bottom line is that nobody knows anything and anyone who says they do is full of it.

You could pick any number of airports, but one (CAE) has an ASA MX base.

Trojan

 

[Cpt Oveur]

CAE has a good amount of regional traffic to a number of places on a number of carriers. ASA already has a hangar by the Fedex cargo area, and yes, the Mesa Hangar is up for grabs as well.
The press release (if it even does happen) will be a nice hint, but I'll believe it when I see the plane painted up with United Express on the side flying into a United hub.

 

[IBNAV8R]

I'll confirm that ASA people will be very happy in a few weeks. Seriously.

Medeco

Only if you deal BH an "ace".

 

[Bako Cap]

CAE is no different than FAT, PSP, TUS, COS at SkyWest. In Skywest Inc.'s eyes, outstation MX bases are less expensive than large hub MX bases. IAD would tax and fee ASA MX to death like all hub airports. The smaller communities want/need the increase in jobs and offer tax/fee breaks for airport growth. If ASA gets any UAX flying, I would imagine a small crew base to go along with the increase in MX at CAE. It saves on overnight costs and offers a buffer for seasonal increases/decreases in CAE or IAD traffic.

I have hopes for you guys to get the furloughs back on property with another code share. I do not believe that SkyWest airlines will get any more UAX traffic due to our already large amount UAX flying. So if INC. gets any, I am sure it will head your direction. Good luck.

 

[BrickTop]

There's a bunch of tools over at XJT and also at Air Wisconsin who all think they are getting this flying...HA!!!! What a bunch of clowns, always think they're better than everyone else, but they're just too damn expensive to ever get new flying. Clowns...

Big talk behind a keyboard. Do yourself a favor and pound down a cup of Skydrol.

 

[777forever]

CAE is no different than FAT, PSP, TUS, COS at SkyWest. In Skywest Inc.'s eyes, outstation MX bases are less expensive than large hub MX bases. IAD would tax and fee ASA MX to death like all hub airports. The smaller communities want/need the increase in jobs and offer tax/fee breaks for airport growth. If ASA gets any UAX flying, I would imagine a small crew base to go along with the increase in MX at CAE. It saves on overnight costs and offers a buffer for seasonal increases/decreases in CAE or IAD traffic.

I have hopes for you guys to get the furloughs back on property with another code share. I do not believe that SkyWest airlines will get any more UAX traffic due to our already large amount UAX flying. So if INC. gets any, I am sure it will head your direction. Good luck.

Outstation basing will only work if multiple IAD outstations are opened as crew bases. Its impossible to crew 20 airplanes with a base in CAE unless they are going to overnight 12+ UAX planes there. The base will be in IAD. I hope it goes senior but I think people will end up being displaced.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

That's a valid point, but the rumor is more focused on the flying, not the bases. There's no reason why they couldn't have a few little ones sprout up. Other companies have shown that they don't need a chief pilot at each one, so there's no reason ASA couldn't have a base without any adult supervision. If it save the company a lot of money, it's possible to do. However, I'd say that IAD is more likely. Is any of the ORD flying on the table as well? Mesa does some of that too.

 

[McNugent]

You guys are speaking as if this is a done deal. Don't get your hopes up too much or you'll just be even more dissapointed. I hope this flying comes our way obviously, but a little cautious optimism will save you a lot of heartache when the work goes to a lower bidder.

 

[trip]

Outstation basing will only work if multiple IAD outstations are opened as crew bases. Its impossible to crew 20 airplanes with a base in CAE unless they are going to overnight 12+ UAX planes there. The base will be in IAD. I hope it goes senior but I think people will end up being displaced.

Only need to overnight about 5 planes, every 4th day the plane would rotate through for an overnight at the mx base and get the service check etc.
Could CAE support 5 UAX flights in the AM? I've never been there.

 

[USCtrojan]

Only need to overnight about 5 planes, every 4th day the plane would rotate through for an overnight at the mx base and get the service check etc.
Could CAE support 5 UAX flights in the AM? I've never been there.

Yes, it could. New terminal, lots of services--no problem. I don't know who works the Yonited flight out of CAE, however. Delta Mainline is the servicer for Delta, who does the YoNited service out of CAE?

Trojan

 

[LazyLightnin']

Mesa...

 

[flyrunner80]

CAE has a good amount of regional traffic to a number of places on a number of carriers. ASA already has a hangar by the Fedex cargo area, and yes, the Mesa Hangar is up for grabs as well.
The press release (if it even does happen) will be a nice hint, but I'll believe it when I see the plane painted up with United Express on the side flying into a United hub.

Well, I hear ASA wants the planes to be painted ghost white with an LED screen on the tail so pilots can flick a switch and change the sign between Delta Connection and United Express.

does anyone have recurrent training to ask SH about this?

 

[blesko]

Well, I hear ASA wants the planes to be painted ghost white with an LED screen on the tail so pilots can flick a switch and change the sign between Delta Connection and United Express.

does anyone have recurrent training to ask SH about this?

SH can only answer when its official. Ask him about LA basing when that was going on. The answer was absolutely not. A week later, LA opened. MGMT can only comment when comment with facts when the deal is done. Thats why they are management. If they were pilots, they'd be on flightinfo like everyone else spreading rumors. There are significant issues that go on with an RFP, specifically regarding confidentiality until all parties are privy to the agreements.

 

[goahead]

I heard Georgia Skies was getting all the flying and it was for 900's. I heard it from a very reliable source, John Crapper.

 

[planejockey]

I was in a meeting with Tilton and he said that he heard from Kellner and Smisek that the flying is going to CAL Lite. They even have the planes painted. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cont...0207929/&sid=deb1d98df6c38e19ede42f037ecd883a

 

[Bako Cap]

Outstation basing will only work if multiple IAD outstations are opened as crew bases. Its impossible to crew 20 airplanes with a base in CAE unless they are going to overnight 12+ UAX planes there. The base will be in IAD. I hope it goes senior but I think people will end up being displaced.

I was only talking about the possible CAE base IF ASA gets a UAX contract. I agree that there would also have to be an IAD crew base for the majority of the flying. A CAE base would be for system flexibility. Of course, outstation MX/Pilot bases kinda suck for schedules due to the early shows with very late releases due to overnight MX work.

I am sad to say that I agree with others on this thread that stated this will only happen with an agreement on PBS. Also, watch for BH to push for multi-qual on the 2/7/900 for this growth due to greater flexibility. Avoid SkyWest's "Block Hour Override" scheme at all costs. Good luck guys.

 

[crj567]

I was in a meeting with Tilton and he said that he heard from Kellner and Smisek that the flying is going to CAL Lite. They even have the planes painted. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cont...0207929/&sid=deb1d98df6c38e19ede42f037ecd883a

Sounds like a great idea!

I have and even better one:

How about we get a bunch of 757s, paint a lime-green sperm down the side, and call it "SONG?"

-A winner for sure! (you won't be able to sell tickets fast enough!)

 

[Baronman]

I am sad to say that I agree with others on this thread that stated this will only happen with an agreement on PBS. Also, watch for BH to push for multi-qual on the 2/7/900 for this growth due to greater flexibility. Avoid SkyWest's "Block Hour Override" scheme at all costs. Good luck guys.

Am I the only one who thinks management posts on the board here?

Chief Pilot "Well fellas...without PBS and multi qual...our shot of getting a piece of that United flying is slim to none..."

FO overhears and calls buddy at the crashpad. "Dude we're never gonna get that United Flying unless we have PBS! Dude without United you know we're not going to upgrade soon! I mean DUDE!"