Rock fight for FedEx?

[FoxHunter]

Fox H,


97% plus of us are wrong to be in the union and are morons. Thank you for all your experience and wisdom. Take it elsewhere please.

Sorry, I can speak for myself. I realize you are not able to because your MEC speaks for you. A the the rhetoric in the world will not change the fact that your union leadership will never be able to secure the contract they promise.

Now go to your rally on the 23rd and have your leaders tell you what you want to hear. I'm sure it will be great! The problem is that it will never happen.

 

[DornierPilot]

FoxHunter,

I guess you're not going to step up to the plate and pay your own way.

I see that you are ignoring my challenge and, also, proving to everyone on the forum that you are a FREELOADER.

I realize that it must be tough to take your position and then not be able to defend it. Quite pathetic actually.

I got a good chuckle out of your response (noting you completely ignored my post). All you could come up with is that we won't get everything we asked for. Thanks for the enlightenment. I thought all ALPA contracts concluded with getting everything the pilot group asks for .

In any event, I'm sure you will turn down any and all improvements that we negotiate in our new agreement - You are a man of honor.

Good Day,

 

[oldf4guy]

Fox H,

Put your money where your mouth is; everyone on this board who participates in association and pays dues has. Publicly commit any of your personal financial gains from the next contract to a pilot's scholarship fund or some other worthy cause to show your committment to the profession. If not take Iscariot's silver and wallow in your betrayal.

See Y'all on th 23rd.

 

[fox3]

Childish

One can only assume that this fedex wide email(pilots) was in retaliation for comments made by the Negotiating Committee. How childish. Gotta wonder about the credibility of an FCIF system used for these type of personal statements. I wanna know the names of the management queers sitting on the other side of the table. Pilots fuking pilots --WTFO?

 

[FoxHunter]

Fox H,

Put your money where your mouth is; everyone on this board who participates in association and pays dues has. Publicly commit any of your personal financial gains from the next contract to a pilot's scholarship fund or some other worthy cause to show your committment to the profession. If not take Iscariot's silver and wallow in your betrayal.

See Y'all on th 23rd.

I've always put my money where my mouth is. When FPA was being formed trying to oust ALPA I sent a check for $2000 on day #1. I plan to do the same plus more when the crew force decides to oust ALPA the second time.

Have a great time on the 23rd. You'll feel great for the moment. Sort of like how many get AIDS.

 

[JethroF15]

I just had dinner with the Captain I'm flying with and mentioned FoxHunter (or should I say FoxLeech) to him. Of course we used his real name. He said he knew the guy and that he, specifically, was one reason that the company did away with the Negative Airmans list. He told me that there were so many FOs who had listed him on their Negative Airman list that it was getting impossible to find someone to fly with him. So when you hear things like that and then read the dribble he posts here, you have to figure this is a very sad and lonely person. True story.

 

[FedEx]

WOW, What a piece of SHI!. No one is asking you to join ALPA. We just want you to pay your dues like the rest of us. I could care less if you joined ALPA, just pay your dues. I respect the guys who pay there dues and decide not to join ALPA, that is there choice. But to not pay any dues, all the says is your a CHEAP AS!...

 

[seefive]

FH,

i don't expect alpa to get everything they are asking for in the negotiating process. i don't agree with everthing alpa supports. i don't expect the world.

what i do expect is for the pilots of fedex to stand by one another and do everything possible to help improve our lives (benefits, hc, security, pay....etc) in a fair and responsible way. for us and for our company. a few have chosen not to stand with our group. i'm sure you for one have reasons for that. that being said, you will benefit from whatever the outcome of our negotiating process rest assured. Because whatever the final outcome is, it will be significantly better than what FedEx would have handed over to you on their own. you may benefit a little more during the termoil caused by negotiations but you have lost much more. That being the respect, comraderie, and friendship of the vast majority of people in your chosen career field. That is sad for you.

 

[FedExFlyer]

On a side note......once again this week thanks for the support of our ALPA leaders and members in the Commercial Appeal letters to the editor. June 9 page B5. Its good to have some supportive feedback for the less knowledgeable public.

 

[klhoard]

On a side note......once again this week thanks for the support of our ALPA leaders and members in the Commercial Appeal letters to the editor. June 9 page B5. Its good to have some supportive feedback for the less knowledgeable public.

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Dude, you read the Commercial Appeal?? That paper, along with FoxLeech, are both on my Ignor(ant) list. . .
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[sandman2122]

Got your Tractor?

Hey foxhunter!

Did Fred buy you a $28,000 John Deere tractor too?

Incredible.



MarketWatch
Market Pulse: Correct: FedEx grants $32M in options to executives
Friday June 3, 3:40 pm ET
By Padraic Cassidy

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - FedEx Corp. granted its Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer Frederick W. Smith 250,000 stock options on June 1 with an exercise price of $89.70 each, according to a federal filing late Thursday. David J. Bronczek, head of FedEx Express, and other officers were granted a total of 114,750 options at the same price. Kenneth Masterson, the company's former general counsel, retired June 1 and entered into a two-year consulting agreement that includes tickets to Memphis Grizzlies games, a $65,000 golf club membership and a gift from FedEx of a $28,347 John Deere tractor . Shares of FedEx rose $1.06 to $91.25 Thursday. (Corrects figure for Frederick W. Smith to 250,000 stock options.)

 

[FNG24]

Man, I finally got called for an interview at the end of the month....am I going to have to dodge gunfire and grenades in Memphis...lol....I'm scared now

 

[SWPA Pilot]

I must have missed an e-mail somewhere, which side is JL on as far as the rock throwing goes?

 

[FNG24]

Pilots side I think...It was on the first page I believe..

 

[TonyC]

I must have missed an e-mail somewhere, which side is JL on as far as the rock throwing goes?

The e-mail which is the subject of this thread was authored by the System Chief Pilot. Many pilots want to think he is on their side.

I remind you of a portion of Captain Frake's story (Full story posted above):

This management team is not your friend. Certain folks out there misguidedly believe that these managers care about your personal well-being. Or perhaps some of you believe that if you have a job to do, and you carry it out in a fair-minded, professional manner, life will be swell. Let me repeat for those out there who still think Union representation is a waste of time and money: This management team is not your friend! You cannot hide behind fond memories of the good old days as I have, and you certainly can’t fantasize that Mr. Smith is somehow going to come to your rescue should your “six o’clock” get in trouble.

It appears that Capt Lewis has reacted to the letter from an MEC Officer that points out there are Seniority-Number-Holding pilots, working as managers, that sit on the Company's side of the Negotiationg Table, effectively negotiating against their fellow pilots.

If nothing else, the e-mail should give us insight into his true allegiance.





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[Laughing_Jakal]

Foxleech

The thing that pi$$e$ me off about Foxleech and his ilk is that we all effectively pay more to cover his share which means that indirectly, my 9 yr old boy, 5 yr old girl, and 3 year old boy are underwriting his ability to exercise his rights under a contract including his ability to fly DFT and VLT. By my calculation, that makes them more of a man (collectively and individually) than he is.

Go away Foxleech... better yet, retire and get outta my seat...the new breed is in town and our blocks have 100% support and we aren't too old to start another career.

 

[FedEx]

Talked to my wife last night about the whole Union thing. She deals with the NEA (National Education Ass) largest Union in America. She said that if a teacher chooses not to join the Union then that teacher doesn't get any representation or legal counsel. Her dad is a teacher and hates the NEA, but he knows that when a student or parent accuses him of some leagal action, (he coaches girls basketball) he will have the NEA to back him up. MY wife deals with the Senior reps at the NEA and they told her that some teachers who get into trouble and ask for leagal counsel are first looked at to make sure they are members. If they are not members then they are told good luck and come back and talk to us when you join the membership. They said why should they help out a nonmember with all the others members paying dues? If they helped out the non-members, then there would be no incentive to join the Union.
I feel ALPA should do the same. Why should my dues help protect another pilot who is not paying dues?
Let this happen to one pilot and see how fast they join the Union...

Rez O. No desrespect to you, but what if the Union would have told you, good luck on getting your job back, come talk to us later when you become a member. I am tired of my hard earned $ helping out someone who choose not to belong to the Ass... Lets do what the NEA does and tell the pilot "good luck, let us know how everything works out".

 

[FoxHunter]

Go away Foxleech... better yet, retire and get outta my seat...the new breed is in town and our blocks have 100% support and we aren't too old to start another career.

Sorry Jakal, no plans to retire, keep quiet, or get out of the seat you some day may earn. Hope you soon advance past your Junior High mode. You just may get that opportunity to try a new line of work.

BTW, have you noticed how all weak pilots are among the strong ALPA suporters?

 

[sandman2122]

Weak Pilot's?

All you brave sh*hot scab pilots got it together right?? Weak pilot's my arse. The scabs (non-members) I've flown with in the Airbus are lousey pilots and have pathetic personalities......

Must get old being by yourself on layovers because no one wants to spend time with you since you're cheap.....

 

[FoxHunter]

All you brave sh*hot scab pilots got it together right?? Weak pilot's my arse. The scabs (non-members) I've flown with in the Airbus are lousey pilots and have pathetic personalities......

Must get old being by yourself on layovers because no one wants to spend time with you since you're cheap.....

Another Junior High Schooler!!! You are a perfect example at to why ALPA/or their avid supporters have Zero chance of signing a contract. All talk, childish talk at that, supported by each telling each other the same line of BS.

If I've been alone on layovers I have yet to notice. In any case I think I would prefer not joining you for dinner. I'm sure spending time on the flight deck with you would be more than enough. Pehaps you should make plans with Jakal so you can explore future emplyment opportunities.

 

[h.simpson]

active herk you are so right...the ignore feature is so nice. kind of like flushing a big, steamy, sewer pickle down the toilet.

just not quite as satisfying.

fox_loser...did you get beat up a lot when you were a kid?

(the great thing is i won't see his reply with ignore on)

 

[Purpledog]

I'm not a mean person and I have been cordial to nonmembers in the past since we are all human and have faults and traits that others might consider non-desirable. However, if FH is an adequate representation of our group of NMs, I think I might just drop the cordiality in favor of just ignoring their very existence. I don't agree with everything ALPA has done over the years but I do believe we have a good pilot group, negotiators, and MEC leadership at FDX. I just can't see how someone can retain self respect living off the fortunes of others without contributing. To each his own I guess.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez O. No desrespect to you, but what if the Union would have told you, good luck on getting your job back, come talk to us later when you become a member. I am tired of my hard earned $ helping out someone who choose not to belong to the Ass... Lets do what the NEA does and tell the pilot "good luck, let us know how everything works out".

My understanding of why FPA supported Capt Frake was so it wouldn't set a precedence for pilot pushing for a mjority of the FedEx pilots, who happen to have integrity and be dues paying members of the FedEx union

 

[SWPA Pilot]

FH were you beat up a lot as a child. If not, you should have been.

 

[FoxHunter]

FH were you beat up a lot as a child. If not, you should have been.

You guys are amusing. Hard tough union members, can't even make a simple rebuttal. The best you can do are names, idle threats. Pathetic children.

 

[PurpleTail]

Did you hear that? Is someone talking? I thought I heard something but I must be mistaken.

 

[sandman2122]

foxhunter

19,400 hours, WOW, and still not a team player........Enjoy your retirement, thanks to ALPA you freeloader.

Not name calling because it's the truth.

 

[Los1]

Back from a trip and back on this thread...
I hav said this at fox hunter, no personal attacks, no name calling, no childish behavior
just ignore the dude. Let him stew and/or think that he has all the answers..
remember...IGNORE
Los1

 

[Goose17]

You guys are amusing. Hard tough union members, can't even make a simple rebuttal. The best you can do are names, idle threats. Pathetic children.

FoxHunter,

I think the name calling comes with the frustration the union members (myself included) have with the non-union members. For the most part, we all understand if you have some deep seeded reason for not wanting to be a member. However, the "vibe" I get from many non-union members is that since it is a choice to be a member or not, they simply choose not to be a member for financial reasons. The non-union members reap the rewards, but don't put up their part of the ante. This shortcoming is made up by the rest of us union members and are thus paying your way, much like buying you dinner and watching you eat it without even hearing a thanks.

If you have a serious reason for not being a member, fine. Put yourself in for dues check off and thus stop relying on your fellow pilot to cover for you. If you don't respect the union, I hope at least you respect your fellow crewmembers.

Goose17

 

[Geronimo4497]

Interesting topic. Just out of curiousity, how much are member dues? I can't imagine that it is a ton of money, considering what you guys make.

P.S. - Can I have a job?