Risky Regionals?

[Ben Dover]

ummm...buffet in the control column? Anyone? Anyone?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

There's already a bunch of data out on the Colgan crash in Buffalo.....it is starting to take shape. Isn't this the same company that sank a 1900 off Massachusetts a few years back? In the flying world they have always been considered a "bottom feeder" would you agree?

My point? When you plan a trip and get an itinerary, there always seems to be a leg on a regional that should be looked into. I know the big guys crash too, but it seems riskier if your trip includes a leg on Colgan, Comair, Go, Mesa etc.....

Does anyone out there actually choose an itinerary so as NOT to fly on one of these airlines?

At best it would only be a psychological fix. Trying to guess the next flight to crash, is like trying to predict the end of the world. Statistically, it's pretty unlikely you're going to draw the short straw no matter what airline you're on.

http://www.airdisaster.com/statistics/ (older data, 2004)

By the numbers, according to the above, you would want to avoid USAirways w/Express (system), AirTran, and MD11's.

 

[turbomax97]

ummm...buffet in the control column? Anyone? Anyone?

hahahahaha buellerrr?... buellerrrrr?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

The NTSB will spend probably a year and tremendous man-hours and resources examining this accident to find out why.

Yet the FAA is willing to allow anyone to play in a $25 million-dollar jet with 76 paying passengers after 6 months of fooling around at some two-bit Florida flight school.

No disrespect to the crew of the ill-fated flight. This isn't directed at them. But is anyone surprised these things happen?

Anyone?

Seems to me it's smoke and mirrors as usual...

 

[Jar Jar]

Well you cant be surprised that there is a disconnect between the FAA and NTSB, thats certainly not news to anyone.

Even if the NTSB came out and said, 'yea it was lack of experience that caused this' or 'if only they were military trained' -- the FAA (read: ATA) is only going to do whats economically realistic for the industry.

 

[Flyin2low]

My old regional gave us a quick and dirty on tail plane stalls and I kept thinking how impossible this would be to pull back during that one time it really was a tail plane stall. Of course the best couse of action is to avoid icing but thats not always an option.

I had a tail stall in the J-31. And I did pull all the way back and add power. This was at 250 agl too. You can tell which one it is by the way the airplane rotates during the stall [seat of the pants]. Rotation from the tail axis is a wing stall. Rotation around the wing axis is a tail stall.

 

[hydroflyer]

I had a tail stall in the J-31. And I did pull all the way back and add power. This was at 250 agl too. You can tell which one it is by the way the airplane rotates during the stall [seat of the pants]. Rotation from the tail axis is a wing stall. Rotation around the wing axis is a tail stall.

What? Tail axis rotation? In either stall the plane will rotate at the center of gravity.

 

[erikgigem]

Perhaps the FAA or the airline's insurance companies needs to re-examine a need for minimum hour requirements before a pilot is being put on a Part 121 RJ. 400 minimum hours is absolutely ridiculous. People's lives are at stake. Aeronautical decision making (ADM) skills takes time and experience to develop. (no disrespect to those that got hired with such low hours).

 

[SSDD]

I just hope they don't require hand flying in icing conditions, because a lot of these guys can't even handfly VFR, let alone in the clouds.

 

[Dashmonster]

I just hope they don't require hand flying in icing conditions, because a lot of these guys can't even handfly VFR, let alone in the clouds.

Dash8's have a TCS button that lets you feel the airplane w/o the autopilot interference. Its handy in icing conditions.

 

[airplane wizard]

And regionals fly how many millions of pax every year with out incident?

 

[JoeMerchant]

The NTSB will spend probably a year and tremendous man-hours and resources examining this accident to find out why.

Yet the FAA is willing to allow anyone to play in a $25 million-dollar jet with 76 paying passengers after 6 months of fooling around at some two-bit Florida flight school.

No disrespect to the crew of the ill-fated flight. This isn't directed at them. But is anyone surprised these things happen?

Anyone?

Seems to me it's smoke and mirrors as usual...

EXACTLY...Would be nice to see ALPA address experience also.....

 

[olympus593]

EXACTLY...Would be nice to see ALPA address experience also.....

Yeah it's alpa fault DBAG.

 

[AMRAAM]

Yet the FAA is willing to allow anyone to play in a $25 million-dollar jet with 76 paying passengers after 6 months of fooling around at some two-bit Florida flight school.

No disrespect to the crew of the ill-fated flight. This isn't directed at them. But is anyone surprised these things happen?

Anyone?

Not me. Thanks for finally answering my question Oakum_Boy

 

[JoeMerchant]

Yeah it's alpa fault DBAG.

....not what I said...