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I heard from a mechanic at airnet that the pic had just gotten hired at Jetride and this was his last flight for airnet and did what the sic called a victory roll. Losing about 10,000 feet before recovering the plane and severly damaging to the the point where it is a total loss. The mechanic said that the horizontal stab was bent, wing spar broken and seemed like the only reason wings did not come off was because the skin was holding them on??? Basically plane was fu**ed up. Someone has gotten to teach this guy how to roll a airplane.


Why...Why???
 
I heard from a mechanic at airnet that the pic had just gotten hired at Jetride and this was his last flight for airnet and did what the sic called a victory roll. Losing about 10,000 feet before recovering the plane and severly damaging to the the point where it is a total loss. The mechanic said that the horizontal stab was bent, wing spar broken and seemed like the only reason wings did not come off was because the skin was holding them on??? Basically plane was fu**ed up. Someone has gotten to teach this guy how to roll a airplane.

i'll bet your boyfriend loves hearing all the gossip from you.
 
I see other things will now be deleted or kept internal as well. What a crock. You should be ashamed.

please, enlighten us as to why he should be ashamed and why you think you have the right to know a damn thing that goes on in our company.
 
please, enlighten us as to why he should be ashamed and why you think you have the right to know a dang thing that goes on in our company.

I don't want to know anything about your company. My remarks are directed at him because of a series of post that was deleted by moderators yesterday.

I have no heartburn or disrespect with Air net. I feel for the co-pilot who may or may not have gotten in trouble for the other pilots actions because as one of my previous post mentioned, I have been there.

He should be ashamed because or the correlation of his post and his new job.

Since the moderators deleted it, I will not repeat it.
 
Someone has gotten to teach this guy how to roll a airplane.
Perhaps someone from the training department could help, or better yet anyone that has been in a lear there for more than a year.
 
Anyone have any pics of the bird? I heard they bent the wings...
 
Discipline is a hallmark of a professional. The nastiest debrief I ever gave was in response to looking over my shoulder on a 3 ship redeployment sortie and seeing another IP on my wing doing an aileron roll on an airway.

It never left the debrief, but I think my points were taken to heart.

If I can't trust you--you are worthless to me in combat. If I can't trust you, you are worthless to me as a friend. Discipline=excellence.

Sounds like a pilot with good hands forgot good hands are only part of the equation...

I own a Navion. I've heard more than a few people wink and say "they roll nice..." Well...it ain't certified for aerobatics. Having done 2 owner assisted annuals, I am pretty sure the plane is darn solid and wouldn't hurt it a bit. However--it ain't gonna happen with me in my plane. I've done acro in military trainers and the F15, and if I want to do acro in GA I'll get a plane built for it. Guys who feel compelled to show off eventually kill people, break airplanes, and/or lose jobs. Being undisciplined doesn't make you cool--it makes you an accident waiting to happen.

I have to agree here, the worst two words that you will ever hear a pilot say are, "Watch this!"
 
I don't want to know anything about your company. My remarks are directed at him because of a series of post that was deleted by moderators yesterday.

I have no heartburn or disrespect with Air net. I feel for the co-pilot who may or may not have gotten in trouble for the other pilots actions because as one of my previous post mentioned, I have been there.

He should be ashamed because or the correlation of his post and his new job.

Since the moderators deleted it, I will not repeat it.

So you really have nothing better to do with your time than to pick fights with me? Is your life really that boring and unmeaningful?

I am not going to be ashamed of anything, and despite your overly-inflated opinion of yourself you have no right whatsoever to shame me for anything. I asked about what happened because of the many friends that I have working for that company, people I've known for years and people that I have either flown with, been trained by, or personally trained while I worked there. I was concerned that a friend might have almost gotten himself or herself killed and I asked for info.

But hey, you obviously don't approve of my presence here or my right to ask a simple freakin question. And since Starcheckdriver opened this can of worms and you feel oh so compelled to run with it, I'll humor you and everyone else.

YES, IT'S TRUE! I'M A FED! HATE ME, JUST LIKE 400A DOES!

You want to know how the system really works instead of being a paranoid little child? It works like this. Even IF I wanted to take action against the company or the pilots, I couldn't. You know why? First of all, it's not in my district. Second, NOBODY in the administration is allowed to have ANY official contact with a previous employer unless there have been TWO YEARS of separation. And lastly, do you honestly think that any information gathered from an ANONYMOUS WEB FORUM would be admissible as evidence? There is no way to prove ANYTHING that is posted here, and there is no way to prove the IDENTITY of ANYONE.

Thus ends my final post on this forum. Enjoy your pathetic life 400A.

And to all you starcheckers, fly safe.
 
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give me a break. don't let someone like that make you bail on the forum. he talks about matuiry of posts, and yet isn't bothered by people blabbing gossip. that right there tells you what kind of guys he is.
 
So you really have nothing better to do with your time than to pick fights with me? Is your life really that boring and unmeaningful?

I am not going to be ashamed of anything, and despite your overly-inflated opinion of yourself you have no right whatsoever to shame me for anything. I asked about what happened because of the many friends that I have working for that company, people I've known for years and people that I have either flown with, been trained by, or personally trained while I worked there. I was concerned that a friend might have almost gotten himself or herself killed and I asked for info.

But hey, you obviously don't approve of my presence here or my right to ask a simple freakin question. And since Starcheckdriver opened this can of worms and you feel oh so compelled to run with it, I'll humor you and everyone else.

YES, IT'S TRUE! I'M A FED! HATE ME, JUST LIKE 400A DOES!

You want to know how the system really works instead of being a paranoid little child? It works like this. Even IF I wanted to take action against the company or the pilots, I couldn't. You know why? First of all, it's not in my district. Second, NOBODY in the administration is allowed to have ANY official contact with a previous employer unless there have been TWO YEARS of separation. And lastly, do you honestly think that any information gathered from an ANONYMOUS WEB FORUM would be admissible as evidence? There is no way to prove ANYTHING that is posted here, and there is no way to prove the IDENTITY of ANYONE.

Thus ends my final post on this forum. Enjoy your pathetic life 400A.

And to all you starcheckers, fly safe.

My problem has nothing to do with feds, It has to do with feds in secret offering bribes for info.

I have several friends that are feds. I hunt with a FSDO manager, and I was very close with our POI when I flew charter for 10 years.

Get over yourself.
 
don't let someone like that make you bail on the forum. he talks about maturity of posts, and yet isn't bothered by people blabbing gossip. that right there tells you what kind of guys he is.

Now that I've jumpstarted my brain with a few hits of 20W50 coffee.....


You're right, this fool seems to have damaged his own credibility more than he's damaged mine.

Does this forum have an ignore-user feature? Edit: yes it does, and it has been utilized. Ahh, so much quieter.
 
Thus ends my final post on this forum. Enjoy your pathetic life 400A. quote]

give me a break. don't let someone like that make you bail on the forum. he talks about matuiry of posts, and yet isn't bothered by people blabbing gossip. that right there tells you what kind of guys he is.

Why dont you make sure you have seen all of the post before you pop off at the mouth. You missed a whole page that was deleted by the moderators. He said one of his last post was his final, to bad it was not.
 

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