Republic UX EMB-170 Picture!!!!

[CitationLover]

So, to just sit idle worrying yourself and ignoring the fact that your airline's subpar contrct has no bearing or effect on the rest of the industry is, at best, a retarded view of the labor industry. When regional airlines are making record profits (a must for contract improvement) and it's own labor sells themselves short for growth opportunities (which would've happened anyhow but at the expense of the investor not the employee) and to make Captain quickly at a sh1tty airline, you've sold your soul to the Devil and F'ed everybody else. Shame on you!!!

g159av8tor,

take an economics class dude. there are two forces at work here and SOMEBODY has to have the lowest. mgmt can argue that comair's contract hurts profits and is selling their investors short. weren't labor leaders throwing out comair + 5% as a mantra for awhile. you're just pissed off that the times have changed with the business cycle. besides with the investors shorted, people sell stock, company loses money, company furloughs pilots. swa is the perfect example where every intention/job task is asked to be looked at in terms of lowering costs and saving money. for year those "majors" laughed at them and called them "slaves", etc but whose laughing now?

with the growth being offered at some regionals, in terms of real dollars, people are making MORE money. i'm sure at Independence you will be asked initially at looking at keeping costs lower in everything you do.

oh all wise ACA/Indy Air pilot what should us lowly peons here at mesa do?

on a more serious note: are you guys changing the "blue ridge" call sign this summer? "Independence" does have much better ring to it.

 

[j41driver]

on a more serious note: are you guys changing the "blue ridge" call sign this summer? "Independence" does have much better ring to it.

Apparently we are changing the call sign. No idea what it will be though.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Don't worry, CHQ captains are all making $100+ a year.

Yep. Let's do the math...

Roughly 1/3 of the way through the year, a CHQ captain has 'allegedly' made over 50k.

So....

I guess He'll clear, *ahem*, $150k this year... Probably more!

Why oh why would anyone want to go to FedEx, then? Jeez, it would take YEARS to make CHQ money there!

 

[Sinca3]

I Pee

I P Freley
Man that avatar freaks me out........

 

[I.P. Freley]

.....mission accomplished! LOL

 

[Lequip]

Good for you guys Republic! Don't let all the Sour Grapes get you down. It's nothing but jealousy and envy by a bunch of wanna be career FO's and CFI's. Lets see CoEx Walk the Walk and put their $$ where their mouth is. They will cave. The senior ones all bought their jobs anyway.

 

[Ben Franklin]

It's nothing but jealousy and envy by a bunch of wanna be career FO's and CFI's.

This statement defies logic in so many ways.

Why would anyone be jealous of a sub-par contract? Since when was a CFI in the right seat at a 121 carrier? I think that you are angry becuase all that you can afford is the left over sour grapes at the store on your $hitty pay.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[KingAirer]

Could an Xjeter please post their CURRENT, 50 and 70 seat rates?

 

[MILF Hunter]

Yep. Let's do the math...

Roughly 1/3 of the way through the year, a CHQ captain has 'allegedly' made over 50k.

So....

I guess He'll clear, *ahem*, $150k this year... Probably more!

Why oh why would anyone want to go to FedEx, then? Jeez, it would take YEARS to make CHQ money there!

Hey I.P., later this year you will see guys leaving FedEx to go to CHQ.

 

[Sky_Goddess]

Sizzle,
If CHQ CA's are making 150 G's a year now. What pray tell are the FA's making??? 80?? maybe 100?? Please let me know because I do like CHQ and I bet all mainline people would try to get on there if you are correct.
Thanks in Advance..........

 

[Be200pilot]

Worst thread Ive seen in a few weeks. Keep up the good work guys!

 

[Lequip]

Ben Franklin....No sour grapes here. I don't even work for Republic or CHQ. My only point is there is so much bitterness towards certain regionals that are getting all the growth and I say more power to them!!! I'd rather be at one of the growing airlines as opposed to being stuck at Comair or Whisky or XJ or XJT as a Career FO.

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

I'd rather be at one of the growing airlines as opposed to being stuck at Comair or Whisky or XJ or XJT as a Career FO.

I would hardly call three to fours years to jet captain a "career FO". And, I am living under a contract that is seven years old and I make about as much as a turbo-prop captain at the airlines with "growth". By and by, I would hardly call additional flying for airlines on the brink "growth". What happens if USAir goes TU?

Frats,

 

[sf3boy]

For sure, Lequip. Mesaba is chock full of career FO's. No end in sight, but we got a great big pay raise....2 bucks a year.

 

[Ben Franklin]

I'd rather be at one of the growing airlines as opposed to being stuck at Comair or Whisky or XJ or XJT as a Career FO.

You're probably one of those losers that goes around saying things like, "THINGS WILL NEVER CHANGE", "I'D CROSS A PICKET LINE TO FLY 747'S FOR PAN AM!", "I AM ALWAYS GOING TO BE GAINFULLY EMPLOYED AS AN AIRLINE PILOT", "I WOULD GIVE MY LEFT NUT TO GET BIGGER AIRPLANES, I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY PAY ME!"

Please get a life and then explain to the group how one would not have the seniority during the course of a 25-35 year career at ANY of the above named companies to ever hold Captain; thus being the "career" F/O that you speak of.



Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[Price]

chq contract

To all you guys and gals who think our contract is a sell out. First of all we came from almost nothing to having a something that is great. We have great schedules (average 14-17 days off) no junior man, multiple days of holiday pay, always an end of the year bonus, commuter clause that actually works for us and is honored by the company and another great thing is your a Captain in a year. Oh yeah we signed our contract last october and it's up for renegotiation in about 2 years. Have you guys even read the contract? If not then get a copy then start throwing stones. Maybe our pay rates are not the best but guess what, Pay rates are only a fraction of the contract. Quality of life is good. Yeah, first year 170 rates are not great but there are not any first year captains. Use your brains people. Put the money where the pilots are. It's a common concept in figuring pay scales. So what if first year rates are 1 dollar an hour. All that counts is that the guy with 10 to 15 years of seniority that is flying the airplane is getting compensated fair. Every pilot group is different. You cannot compare us to ya'll. I wish we could, and I hope you guys get better than us. But it's always going to be like this until all the regionals get together and drop their current representation and somehow form an union that represents all of us together, for example a Regional Airline Pilots Association. That way we would not have to be bickering over who the sell out is. Good luck hope you guys get 85 per hour like you say you will. Don't be the next sell outs, but you will see it's not as easy as you think it is. You want to hear something just as ridiculous as us being sell outs then what about you guys doing major airline routes is an XR. Your selling out the majors. Yeah that is ridiculous sounding just like your libel about CHQ being the retarded child of Mr Franklin and his sister. Be careful, saying such things offend someone you socially deprived fool.

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

Re: chq contract

But it's always going to be like this until all the regionals get together and drop their current representation and somehow form an union that represents all of us together, for example a Regional Airline Pilots Association.

Wow, you know nothing about the history of airline Unions. There already was a RAPA. They had just about enough money to buy every pilot a whopper. Plus they had next to no leverage hence the merger with ALPA so the small airlines could get some. Remember, there is strength in numbers and divided we fall.

Frats,

 

[Price]

Never claimed to know the history of airlines and I'm really only looking forward. Your right, divided we do fall that is why we need all the regionals to be on the same page because it's not working out among us. I do not understand your reply but it is kind of contradicting. I do not know if you realize this but CHQ and Mesa and Mesaba and Pinnacle have been in the past leveraged against either each other or another airline. Companies are getting smart. For example CHQ was threatened with Republic, Mesa with Freedom and from what I understand by talking to some Mesaba guys they where threatened with Pinnacle. I think it we be in our best interest to have some kind of unification among regional pilot groups. So you imply I'm an idiot for wanting to do what your remark stated in your response which was " Divided we fall". So which one is it and what is your solution smart guy. Major airlines are getting multiple code share partners so they use us against each other. Look at Delta , Northwest, United, American even US air. If they get unhappy with one they just drop them and transfer the flying over to the next regional. The only way I know how to stop this is have a common union among us or even some kind alliance between them. I know its a little more complicated than it sounds but it's worth a shot.

 

[sf3boy]

Price,
Mesaba was threatened by Big Sky when our Mesaba bought them and refused to integrate the lists. Our CEO is still hot that he can't use them as a way to shift flying away from us. But the good thing is that they loose a million bucks a quarter for all the Mesaba stock holders. What a great investment.

 

[Price]

I had forgotten about big sky. Great example. I do not know the specifics but it's the same kind of thing that happened with us and the whole Republic thing. It's all about putting one pilot group aginst the next. Unfortunate.

 

[bogberto]

On topic: I can't get the link to work either. Can anyone paste the picture in a post?

On the hijacked topic: if any CEO throws our (Mesa) contract in your face, tell them to pound sand. That POS is in place and we're still barely fudging a profit on the books. When we signed we were getting screwed by Freedom (a reality, not a threat) and even CC Air was being used against us. Kinda hard to compete when you have two "group" carriers undercutting you. Funny, though, Duane Woerth signed the thing. Perhaps you should ask him why.

Here's an idea. Next time you're in the hotel van, crew room, bar, or golf course with a Mesa pilot, ask about the 737s. Preach to them the importance of getting industry average or better for narrowbodies, because our MEC isn't saying anything about it.

 

[lazy8s]

Ditto: Link no workie workie.......


By the way, This thread has been a delight to read! You guys are soooo much fun this week.



Lazy8s

 

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