Republic to Fly for Midwest

[jravi8tor]

vacation bid out and by mid-november the company will be down to 65 captains and 60 F/O's to man 9 B717's. 125 total pilots with around 275 on the street, who knows how man F/A's are getting axed among many other departements. its just a crying shame!

 

[hockeypilot44]

vacation bid out and by mid-november the company will be down to 65 captains and 60 F/O's to man 9 B717's. 125 total pilots with around 275 on the street, who knows how man F/A's are getting axed among many other departements. its just a crying shame!

The Republic pilots don't think it's a crying shame. They're excited about it. What are the NWA pilots and Delta pilots doing about this? Absolutely nothing. Nobody cares until it affects himself/herself. I'm truly sorry for you guys, but I guarantee the majority of pilots in this industry could care less if Midwest goes out of business.

 

[Axel]

Hockeypilot:

Are you RAH? If you are, then you are the only RAH pilot who doesn't think this is a crying shame. If you are not, you should not open your mouth on subjects on which you have no knowledge.

 

[BUDDHA145]

Well said Axel!!! the RAH pilot group is disgusted at the company for such a move...no one is FKing partying here!!!Mr.hockeypilot44 so get your story straigh...

AXEL....stay upwind

 

[MarineGrunt]

So what is being said within the MEH pilot group? Is there any way to fight this? Is there talk of shutting the place down?

 

[deadstick]

I remember the whole oven thing with the CRJ. Are there ovens in the 170's? Timmy's Mrs. has to ring home the bacon since he took that BIG pay cut.

Just curious.

 

[maxblast72]

vacation bid out and by mid-november the company will be down to 65 captains and 60 F/O's to man 9 B717's. 125 total pilots with around 275 on the street, who knows how man F/A's are getting axed among many other departements. its just a crying shame!

14 pilots per aircraft. Seems like alot of pilots per aircraft. Especially for an airline that has never really had high aircraft utilization rates.

 

[Propsync]

14 pilots per aircraft. Seems like alot of pilots per aircraft. Especially for an airline that has never really had high aircraft utilization rates.

Goes well with 88 seats in a 717. Sorry, 99. Timmay was hot on it to fix that problem, 28 airplanes later.


I said to Rankin back in 2003 or 4 during some PIC class that we need more seats. But what does a stupid regional punk know. Guess dumping 28 airplanes was a better idea. My bad.

 

[FlyWolf]

So what is being said within the MEH pilot group? Is there any way to fight this? Is there talk of shutting the place down?

Today both Midwest pilots and flight attendants will have a rally in Milwaukee at 9.30am, media will be present, please join us if you can.

Please contact our local alpa office for more details
414-481-1481

 

[FlyWolf]

14 pilots per aircraft. Seems like alot of pilots per aircraft. Especially for an airline that has never really had high aircraft utilization rates.

They are keeping 2 MD80 for charters for now.

 

[MarineGrunt]

Today both Midwest pilots and flight attendants will have a rally in Milwaukee at 9.30am, media will be present, please join us if you can.

Please contact our local alpa office for more details
414-481-1481

I'll be there. Best of luck guys!

 

[titans10]

What is the RAH pilots going to do about it? Are they going to fly those 170's.

Well said Axel!!! the RAH pilot group is disgusted at the company for such a move...no one is FKing partying here!!!Mr.hockeypilot44 so get your story straigh...

AXEL....stay upwind

 

[UnstableAviator]

Of course, if you know of any pilot in history who told management "I'm not flying that code-share/route" and kept a job, let me know.

 

[FlyWolf]

ALPA Authorizes $2 Million from Union's 'War Chest' to Midwest Airlines Pilots to Fight Management's Outsourcing Plan






Last update: 11:37 a.m. EDT Sept. 11, 2008







WASHINGTON,, Sept 11, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l (ALPA) has allocated $2 million to support the Midwest Airlines pilots' fight to protect their jobs as they begin contract negotiations with an increasingly adversarial management.
In its September 10th resolution, ALPA's Executive Board authorized the amount from the Association's Major Contingency Fund (MCF) for "strategic planning and communications programs in support of the [Midwest pilots'] contract enforcement and negotiating activities." ALPA's MCF, the union's "war chest," provides pilot groups the necessary resources to respond to threats to their jobs and to the piloting profession.
"The airline's plan to outsource Midwest pilots' jobs is the latest example of management's systematic efforts to dismantle our airline," said Capt. Jay Schnedorf, chairman of the Midwest pilots' Master Executive Council (MEC). "Midwest pilots will not shrink from this fight. With ALPA's financial support and the backing of all 53,000 ALPA pilots, we stand ready to fully engage in the fight to protect our jobs, and hold management accountable for its contractual obligations to this pilot group."
The Midwest pilots' contract became amendable on August 31, 2008. They negotiated their first contract in February 2000, and three years later, provided millions in concessions to help save their airline from bankruptcy. Over the past four months, as the pilots prepared to address their contractual concerns through the negotiations process under the Railway Labor Act called "Section 6," management again demanded outrageous concessions from the pilots. Most recently, Midwest announced that, in addition to its parking of all the MD-80 aircraft, it would now replace all but nine B-717s with smaller EMB 170s and outsource that flying to pilots from another airline as part of a deal with Republic Airways Holdings.
ALPA is the bargaining representative for the 400 pilots at Midwest Airlines. Founded in 1931, ALPA represents 53,000 pilots at 37 airlines in the United States and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at http://www.alpa.org.
SOURCE Air Line Pilots Association, International
http://www.alpa.orgCopyright (C) 2008 PR Newswire. All rights reserved

 

[Axel]

What is the RAH pilots going to do about it? Are they going to fly those 170's.

We hope not. The opinion of the RAH pilots I have spoken to about this is overwhelmingly negative.

This makes me want to take a shower.

We have not been given any definitive guidance from our union as of yet. This was a complete ambush. We learned about it when it was released to the press. Word from our union is that we are checking the legality and communicating with the MEH MEC, but the companies achieved tactical surprise and time is short.

If it turns out to be a legal (if ugly) move, the RAH pilots will have the choice of flying it, quitting or getting fired. In a perfect world we would all fall on our swords to uphold the principle, but in all honesty I don't think that would happen at any airline.

Now, if there were to be a picket line, that would open up all kinds of options as far as a cooperative counter to this would be concerned.