Republic Amends Delta, UAL Agreements

[catIIIc]

This is hilarious - CAL, the major with just about the worst work rules out there, the major where people are leaving to go to DAL, SWA, etc..., the major that buckled under to mngt when there wasn't even a threat of BK ............... is beating the war drums over scope????????

You guys picked a nice time to START standing up for yourselves. You might want to investigate the legislation that AMR and CAL (both from the great state of Texas), slipped into a war bill earlier in the year - it concerns how they can delay/extend payments to the pension fund! You guys at CAL should see the train coming down the track, right at you!

One year from now, you might be singing a different song.

Fine our pension is frozen at CAL and the 2000 or so guys that are hired when this goes to a vote won't have a pension anyway. So they can dangle all they want, and CH11 is the only way they can get rid of the fund for the older guys anyway, and the rules of CH11 are alot different now then when UAL, NWA, and DAL went through so it will probalbly mean the end of CAL so threaten the pensions all you want.

I am not saying that it will never happen, who would of thought NWA, DAL, USAir,and UAL would have given so much scope, but the pension is not a threat.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

I agree that most of your guys are like that, and most have been cool to grab a beer with. That said, I had one of your new hires (former Mesa) on my flight to STL that decided that instead of just taking his seat in the waiting area he would come up to our crew and spout his holier then crap republic montra, letting us know all about how republic is expanding and we should all apply there and that they are taking over the US air 190's.... he also said this in front of some US Airways non rev pilots, which left a pretty bad taste in their mouth too. Anyways, I know its just like anyplace over there where 98% are cool and 2 % are like this dork... but he sure left a bad image about the pilot group they are hiring at RP.

Their is always that 2% at every airline.

Sorry you had to listen to that tool.

 

[Superpilot92]

Their is always that 2% at every airline.

Sorry you had to listen to that tool.

This after you make comments of "CAL being next for 170's". Wouldnt you consider that a tool comment?

I personally hope the CAL pilots continue to hold scope. As soon as a 170 comes on painted in CAL colors you will soon see all the CAL 737 300/500s going bye bye. Is that what you want Mr. EMBPILOT?

 

[flyguy81]

i don't want them any more than the next person.....but.....if they're gonna go somewhere, then we might as well get them

whine all you want, you'd take them too. if not you, then someone else. if mainline doesn't want them to be mainline, then they WILL find a regional to fly them

 

[rjet24]

Rumor has it Gayjets is gettin 900's for CAL. Would not surprise me abit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[blott]

all you're base are belong to us.....

B

 

[BoilerUP]

Rumor has it Gayjets is gettin 900's for CAL. Would not surprise me abit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

900s with 50 seats? Sure, have at it...

 

[blott]

forget the PSC, send the tool's name to me and it's taken care of....

B

 

[Axel]

i don't want them any more than the next person.....but.....if they're gonna go somewhere, then we might as well get them

whine all you want, you'd take them too. if not you, then someone else. if mainline doesn't want them to be mainline, then they WILL find a regional to fly them

Sounds like you are saying that if you are going to get raped and you can't stop it from happening, you might as well enjoy the casual sex.

This is up to the mainline. If the pilots let the genie out of the bottle all the so-called "regionals" will trample each other in an effort to get the 70-90 seaters in CO colors.

Let Mesa or Gojets have them. Even though I can't stop what management does and I can't afford to quit in protest, I'm not going to lie down and spread, either figuratively or literally, because I can't stop the rape.

 

[flyguy81]

I have nothig to do with whether or not the planes come here. That's management. I would rather see more growth here than at pinnacle or mesa or anyone else. That's just business. You want your business to succeed. I do not want more bigger planes here because that prolongs my stay here. It's a catch-22. Let the company stagnate to prove a point....you're here longer. Let the company grow...you upgrade and hopefully leave quicker. In order to move up the list you either have to have a lot of attrition (good or bad) or growth (noone is downsizing size of aircraft).

I'm not going to quit in protest....that's asinine. I can do nothing to stop the incoming of 170's. Just like a comair pilot can do nothing to stop the incoming of 900's. Management will get what they want, and you're just a pawn in their little game. If you want to make it analagous to casual sex, go ahead. But I'm sticking to what I said earlier.

 

[Superpilot92]

Some of us don't want to be at the regionals forever and would love nothing more than for the majors to take it all back. It wont happen but the people who openly say they want larger planes at the regionals pretty much are just taking more and more potential jobs at a major but for regional pay.

The planes we fly at the regionals now should have all been in the mainline fleet in the first place. The senior pilots at the majors dropped the ball big time.