RE; Whatever Happened to My "FBI Profile of B19" Post? Revisted AGAIN

[B19 Flyer]

if it bothers you this much then maybe you should change things. Only YOU can change it.

I've said many times before it's a shame we have a union in this idustry. I think you should change things rather than come on here and theaten my family like that.

It's attitudes like your that keep me laughing at the "superior intellect".

You should either change things or stop crying, dont be so whinny about it. Go change things, make things better for the industry.

I've applied more to the INDUSTRY than pretty much anybody on this board, and I haven't been actively involved in years.

That NJ CBA set expectations within the industry that couldn't be met. In that respect is was a bad document, look at what's happening. Bad things man...

 

[brokeflyer]

well, kinda. You have a ways to go to get my level. I remember back when we got the first DC-8's. So I've been around quite a bit longer.

That is why we changed the CBA. They hired planning on future growth and aircraft deliveries, then the economy tanked. So we changed the CBA so the company could get some relief. Which they don't really need cause our salaries aren't very high. But ill play along to save jobs. In another thread you asked if the union would "open up the industry leading" contract...well we did.

Pretty cool huh?

 

[B19 Flyer]

well, kinda. You have a ways to go to get my level. I remember back when we got the first DC-8's. So I've been around quite a bit longer.

That is why we changed the CBA. They hired planning on future growth and aircraft deliveries, then the economy tanked. So we changed the CBA so the company could get some relief. Which they don't really need cause our salaries aren't very high. But ill play along to save jobs. In another thread you asked if the union would "open up the industry leading" contract...well we did.

Pretty cool huh?

I've been away for a while, please explain the changes in the CBA. Please tell me how those that are flying are giving back to support the best intent of the company.

I don't want to hear about this "creative solution" about how to furlough pilots, that is being paid for by Netjets. I want to hear how the union is giving back to the company and supporting the industry by creating a standard all can live by, not just a handful of the chosen few with the carrier with the deepest pockets.

Also, please explain to me why NJ requires 1.8 pilots more per airplane than what NBAA considers industry average. The hiring was for a lot more than just future deliveries, it was also inflated because the CBA required more pilots per plane than any other.

 

[waka]

No so, the private posts I receive far outweigh the public posts in support. It's guys like you that don't understand the reality of how a CBA affects the company and how much money it costs in revenue. You can't hide from the numbers, and as I state in my post, I don't care if anybody likes what I say or not. What I say is truthful, and it's clear that you and many of the union supporters can't handle the truth.

It's read, the numbers back it. That means the people know more about the management side of how unions are dealt with than they did before. I'm satisfied with that. In that respect, I win.

This is called being a legend in your own mind. You're only speaking the truth as far as you are concerned......no matter how many times you claim that you get these masses of supportive PM's . (BTW; why doesn't your entourage of supporters post publicly? )

It's guys like you that don't understand that you negate what you try to say because of the ridiculousness of your incessant drivel. Again, you lose in every respect.

Why don't you read/re-read The Emperor's New Clothes? You might learn something of yourself.

 

[brokeflyer]

im not gonna explain anything to you. because you dont respect anyone here.

Id rather just slap the $hit out of you for just pure enjoyment rather than explain anything we do to you. When you show some respect to those that come here for information then maybe ill give a $hit what you think.

Other than that, don't worry about what we do. I promise it won't affect you.

So please keep me laughin at you're "superior intellect".
Show me some respect and you'd be amazed the results.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Also, please explain to me why NJ requires 1.8 pilots more per airplane than what NBAA considers industry average. The hiring was for a lot more than just future deliveries, it was also inflated because the CBA required more pilots per plane than any other.

I'll explain it to you 19. And I don't work for a union fractional. At least, not yet. The NBAA staffing formula is for PART 91. Netjets (and all other fractionals) require more pilots per airplane BECAUSE OF THE REGULATIONS. Part 91K and Part 135 require "look-back" flight and duty rest. Part 91 (my former life) does not. Hence, the staffing model is lower for a traditional corporate operation. It has NOTHING to do with a collective bargaining agreement.

 

[fischman]

So just because I share the opinion of B19 Flyer, Than I must be him. Well, with that logic you, fischman, waka, brokeflyer, dimeline, Hogprint, jppt2000, etc. are all just one guy/girl. How many monitors do you have and how do you keep up with it all? Talk about a troll...

They all wish they could be as awesome as me. Just to be clear, I haven't posted in this thread except to say that responding to B19 is purely out of a morbid sickness we all seem to share.

Have at it guys and gals. I'm just munching on popcorn and being awesome. :uzi:

 

[skanza]

only MANAGEMENT can change things.

im just a line pilot, I cant make management change their ways.

only YOU can make things right. I can't change anything for you because only you are responsible for you. Plus I'm not management - not that that would make a difference either.

Please do, cause I'm tired of the fight. Please fix it.

come fly with me skanza, Il educate you like I've taught hundreds of other FO's over the last 40 years. Educate me? Or attempt to change my mind to be more like you? I doubt the former is neccessary and know the latter is not going to happen.

It's the principle.......we should be paid a fair wage. And that is why you get a union. Corporate greed causes it and that is undisputed. What about union greed? Isn't the demand for more pay a form of greed? (Can you say GM, Chrysler, and UAW wages and legacy costs?) Like I said in a recent post, if you don't like the pay, go somewhere where you do. Also, why did you take the job with "low" pay to begin with? It's not like the compensation was kept a secret from you during the hiring process. Will one of you please answer this???!!!

This is getting silly...

 

[skanza]

They all wish they could be as awesome as me. Just to be clear, I haven't posted in this thread except to say that responding to B19 is purely out of a morbid sickness we all seem to share.

Have at it guys and gals. I'm just munching on popcorn and being awesome. :uzi:

Get over yourself. What are you, a Lear pilot?

 

[wacoflyr]

This is getting silly...

No, No. This has been silly for a long, long time. As long as you, Skanza/B19 (I'm so confused) continue to post here, it will continue to be silly.

Wacoflyr

 

[waka]

I'll explain it to you 19. And I don't work for a union fractional. At least, not yet. The NBAA staffing formula is for PART 91. Netjets (and all other fractionals) require more pilots per airplane BECAUSE OF THE REGULATIONS. Part 91K and Part 135 require "look-back" flight and duty rest. Part 91 (my former life) does not. Hence, the staffing model is lower for a traditional corporate operation. It has NOTHING to do with a collective bargaining agreement.

If B19 is truly who he says he is, he would have known this. This is yet more confirmation that he is just a mindless anti union clown that is bitter against professional pilots because he couldn't hack it himself.

 

[brokeflyer]

If B19 is truly who he says he is, he would have known this. This is yet more confirmation that he is just a mindless anti union clown that is bitter against professional pilots because he couldn't hack it himself.

wow...thats a good one. nice...

 

[fischman]

Get over yourself. What are you, a Lear pilot?

I don't see a Lear in my profile.

http://db.rambleschmack.net/images/posts/how-to-put-it/kirk-inspirational-awesome.jpg

 

[dbman]

I don't see a Lear in my profile.

http://db.rambleschmack.net/images/posts/how-to-put-it/kirk-inspirational-awesome.jpg

Conjuring the Kirkster. Now that IS awesome.

 

[fischman]

I know.