RAH gets Frontier flying

[8HourPilot]

You sir, are introducing logic and reason to flightinfo. Shame on you. You will recieve no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

The windows are in the normal position on the CRJ-700. The glorified bizjet (CR2) is the one with the low windows.

The 170 is a great airplane...but its just that guys, an airplane. Is the 170 nicer than the CR7 from a passenger perspective? Sure - but economics dictate the 'best airplane' for a given route and for an airline.

Let's leave the drooling (and worse) to Airliners.net, shall we?

 

[jobear]

MMIO DME ARC in a dc-9, at night in wx, screw all you FMS having sissie's.

"my prostate is bigger than yours!"

 

[8HourPilot]

Yeah well, I shot the VIS to 27L in ORD this morning, how do you like them apples prostate boy?

 

[Minimaniac]

MMIO DME ARC in a dc-9, at night in wx, screw all you FMS having sissie's.

"my prostate is bigger than yours!"

Dude, I do that every day on MS Flight Simulator X.... with my iPod turned all the way up!

 

[sleddriver77]

well this is a fun game ill throw in. how about flying into juneau or sitka and ketchekan alaska. how about fairbanks and anchorage. hahah i got yall beat when it comes to mountain time. this was also at night in the worst wx. man i miss the freight dogin days.

Gosh, how impressive. FAI, ANC, SIT and KTN are actually pretty flat, and FAI has the altitiude record amongst them at a whopping 434MSL. (And no, I didn't take the time to go look that up, I just grew up there and learned to fly there.) And how about ADQ, CZF or UTO? Guess ya missed those. We used to do them all in singles and light twins. Gotta love going into places with an approach plate that says in big bold letters: SUCCESSFUL GO-AROUND PAST MISSED APPROACH POINT IMPROBABLE. To some of us, "driftdown" meant that when an engine (or THE engine, as it were) quit, you hoped to God you found a frozen river instead of a hill or trees.

Yep, you have us all beat there, hero. You are clearly a mountain flying expert and a god amongst men. Additionally, I'd suspect your enitre whopping 2000 hours was not accumulated in the "mountains" in a turboprop. ATR42, eh? Musta been a Co-pilot at NAC.

 

[jetalc]

That's pretty irognic coming from a Frontier pilot.

Let's just say his view does not represent even close to the majority of Frontier pilots. It is (just) my opinion that Crashpad seems to believe he is a better pilot and person because he's not flying a turboprop any more.

 

[ERJFO]

ERJFO..................... Nah nevermind, too easy to insult

Try me...

 

[SkywayFO]

JoeBear you know you miss your FMS and Auto Throttles. I figured since JoeC stopped sticking his foot up your ass all the time, your Prostate inflamation would had gone down.... How is life on the other side of the clock anyway? Drop me a line sometime..

 

[atlcrjdriver]

It's amazing how worked up we can get over a rumor. Until Frontier announces the winner, what some guy heard by the water cooler doesn't mean a thing. How can RAH announce a DEN base for Frontier b4 they officially announce the winner? You would think that, if they were waiting for that perfect moment that announcing a new base would let the cat out of the bag.

 

[dacm313]

It's amazing how worked up we can get over a rumor. Until Frontier announces the winner, what some guy heard by the water cooler doesn't mean a thing. How can RAH announce a DEN base for Frontier b4 they officially announce the winner? You would think that, if they were waiting for that perfect moment that announcing a new base would let the cat out of the bag.

Unfortunately, the cat has already been let out of the bag. Our company memo (RAH) said to keep this confidential. I dont know what they were thinking.

 

[sleddriver77]

Until Frontier announces the winner, what some guy heard by the water cooler doesn't mean a thing. How can RAH announce a DEN base for Frontier b4 they officially announce the winner? You would think that, if they were waiting for that perfect moment that announcing a new base would let the cat out of the bag.

It MAY have something to do with the fact that it is a MAR 07 effective date for RAH pilots, and the company kinda needs to open and staff the base a month or so ahead of time, regardless of what the codeshare partner announces when. The company memo to RAH folks asked us to "keep the Frontier thing under our hats," but since a controller in PIT approach asked me about it over the radio the day after it was on the company website, I guess it is now public information. Plus, I suppose it's no coincidence that RAH and Frontier both share a common majority shareholder...

 

[crashpad]

Let's just say his view does not represent even close to the majority of Frontier pilots. It is (just) my opinion that Crashpad seems to believe he is a better pilot and person because he's not flying a turboprop any more.

My point was simple (albeit fueled by the little brown bean): If you fly for a commuter, you're going to get jerked around. Yet, some pilots act like we did them a personal injustice. It has nothing to do with the pilots efforts, which were admirable, and everything to do with money.

I don't believe I'm a better pilot and person because I'm not flying turboprops anymore. I'm a better pilot and person because of it.

.....btw, thanks for running my bag down to the crewroom. I still haven't found it.

 

[jetalc]

My point was simple (albeit fueled by the little brown bean): If you fly for a commuter, you're going to get jerked around. Yet, some pilots act like we did them a personal injustice. It has nothing to do with the pilots efforts, which were admirable, and everything to do with money.

I don't believe I'm a better pilot and person because I'm not flying turboprops anymore. I'm a better pilot and person because of it.

.....btw, thanks for running my bag down to the crewroom. I still haven't found it.

Did I run your bag down to the crew room? Sorry, don't remember that...did you check behind the coffee maker in the old ASIG office?

 

[crashpad]

Yep, that's where it was! Thanks again.

 

[SizzleChest]

mountain flying!?!?!?! jeez, it's not a fricking piper cub in leadville..... you'll be just fine. Dispatch won't be able to keep up with all the requests for recomputes when you get a shortcut. ACARS ain't that fast. Ask an LCA about things if you have ?s. as far as official announcements, I doubt RAH would put out a bid if it were not happening. The bid closes the 12th so they would open a lot of contract problems if it were a joke.

 

[colorado14hi]

Anybody know what RAHs delivery schedule from Embraer is for 170s and 175s?

 

[blott]

yeah, all of em...

 

[TOGA]

RAH and Frontier both share a common majority shareholder...

Huh? Do tell.

 

[F9 Driver]

It's Official!
Republic, Frontier Sign Service Contract
Thursday January 11, 1:05 pm ET
Republic Airways to Supply Regional Jet Service to Frontier Airlines in 11-Year Agreement
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Republic Airways Holdings Inc., a regional carrier for several major irlines, said Thursday its Republic Airlines unit will provide Frontier Airlines regional jet service for Denver-based Frontier Airlines.
Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Republic replaces Horizon Air Industries Inc., whose contract with Frontier expires in December 2007.

The latest agreement calls for Republic Airways to provide and operate 17 Embraer 170 jets for Frontier Airlines beginning in March. Frontier will continue to schedule and market all of its regional jet service flights.

The agreement spans 11 years after the final, 76-seat jet is delivered in December 2008, and Frontier can extend the deal for an additional six years. Frontier will purchase all capacity at a predetermined rate and then directly pay or reimburse Republic. Frontier will also purchase all fuel, which will not be charged back to Republic.

Shares of Republic rose 19 cents to $18.33 in midday trading on the Nasdaq Stock Market. Shares of Frontier Airlines Holdings Inc., parent company to Frontier Airlines, gained 22 cents to $7.52 on the Nasdaq.

Shares of Alaska Air Group Inc., parent to Horizon Air, added $1.37, or 3.2 percent, to $43.81 on the New York Stock Exchange. The stock has traded in a 52-week range of $29.44 to $45.85.

 

[TAWS]

Huh? Do tell.

Wexford, but you didn't hear it from me!