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DMSPILOT SAID:Being a low time private pilot, my biggest pet peeve is pilots asking for a traffic advisory at an airport with an AWOS/ASOS, or with traffic already in the pattern making announcements. I learned to fly at an airport that hardly had any traffic, had no AWOS... just a windsock. So, I don't understand why you would need a traffic advisory at an airport that does have AWOS, and/or has traffic telling you which runway they're using. Even more annoying is the pilot that asks for a traffic advisory repeatedly and gets annoyed when there is no response--like he needs someone else to tell him where to land, and can't figure it out on his own.
"With you" is a minor annoyance, but it only takes 1/2 second to say, and it's appended to the end of the transmission. It is better than "checking in," which is more annoying, because it is placed in the middle of the transmission and takes longer to say; it interrupts the standard transmission. If you say "with you," you're merely saying the standard transmission and then adding two words. If you say "checking in" you alter the entire thing. Not that it bothers me much, but that is my unique perspective on the subject.
dsee8driver said:Maybe in a 172 where you can overfly the field and enter the pattern after surveying the traffic around you don't need to. But when we come in after the tower is closed on a heavy jet where you get setup for a 20 mile straight in ILS by Center it's in my opinion important to get a traffic advisory if you can of others in the area.
I cannot see a difference between "Citation123 checking in at FL310" and Citation 123 with you at FL310"
It is obvious I wasn't talking about you or your jet that you fly, but about the 98% of the pilots that fly at uncontrolled airports, which are in GA piston planes. Good lord!!!! If there are people flying opposite patterns, then the person entering the pattern would either hear them or see them, with no requirement for saying "traffic advisory please," repeated every 30 seconds. Like you said... you get annoyed by people who don't listen, and people who have to *beg* the unicom for an advisory are an example.