Question for Piston freight dogs

[Steve]

How many flights do you cancel because of weather on a average month?

 

[freighterguy]

you probably shouldn't even consider being a freight dog if you have to ask that question.

sounds to me like you're wussing out already.

FG

 

[MVSW]

How many flights do you cancel because of weather on a average month?

I don't know but, I hear hardly EVER!!

 

[freighterguy]

MVSW:

do yourself a favor and get off the cargo board.

obvioulsy, you never flew freight and opted instead to come straight out of that flight school with 500TT and jerk gear at a regional.

dumb a$$.

FG

 

[exchexflyer]

How many flights do you cancel because of weather on a average month?

I flew freight for two years totally over 2000 hours. There was not one flight that was canceled for weather. If weather freaks you out, don't fly freight. On the other hand, if weather freaks you out, don't fly at all!

 

[Steve]

you probably shouldn't even consider being a freight dog if you have to ask that question.

sounds to me like you're wussing out already.

FG

Sh*t,

A guy asks a honest question and all of a sudden I'm a wuss? Let me guess, you got beat up in highschool a lot.

 

[Freight Dog]

How many flights do you cancel because of weather on a average month?

Steve, this is a rough crowd here.

Let me put it this way - if it's legal weather, you're going to launch.

Now we all know legal doesn't necessarily mean safe, and what the most operators will expect from you is to launch and take a look. If you don't feel comfortable pressing on, you come back or divert - at least you tried, and that's it. No questions asked...

This is where you'll gain true PIC experience, and I'll tell you, it was the best and the most fun flying I've done in my career.

 

[hydroflyer]

Closest I've seen a route to getting cancelled due to weather, is having it modified when hurricanes hit and close the airports. Otherwise, if it is open, you go.

 

[freighterguy]

Freight Dog:

I am not minding my manners these days, for that I am sorry. It miffs me how someone who sweats wx would even consider a career in flying. I remember listening to you over the radio, on a dark lonely night, in the middle of the desert, near the London Bridge flying freight simply because it was a means to a better end. (Sorry about the run on sentence)

Steve:

Like I said...

FG

 

[paulsalem]

FG,

You've never once wished you had the night off when you learn your about to launch into an area with severe icing?

Never chosen the wrong path around a thunderstorm, wished you had taken a different route?

Never scared yourself, not even once, while flying?

 

[freighterguy]

flew for a part 135 carrier for 6 years, accumulated over 3500hrs flight time, mostly at night, and mostly single pilot.

do the math CFI boy.

you should join your friend Steve at Eagle. i bet you would look hott in some aviator shades.

FG

 

[paulsalem]

FG,

Please, don't get defensive, I was just trying to say low time pilots like Steve, and I haven't been exposed to the type of flying you (as a still moderatly low time pilot) have accumulated over the past 6+ years.

And since I instruct (and I apologize to you for that, sir) I am exposed to mostly people of my experience or lower, not a situation conducive to learning about flying freight.

So we post questions on this message board hoping to get some good insight by people have done it. Unfortunalty, I (probably Steve too) have to think twice about asking a question, and opening ourselves up to the assult of the slightly more expierced out there, who decide to critisize and belittle us for our honest quetions.

FG, how is a better way Steve and I could have gone about learning more about freight flying? Maybe a way that would have resulted in honest answers without the personal attacks?

 

[freighterguy]

steve and paul, I am sorry.

i need three takeoffs and landings in a single engine because I want to take my g/f flying.

think you guys can help me out?

FG

 

[paulsalem]

FG, your apology is accepted, no hard feelings.

And yea, I'll help out, you'll need 3 take offs and landings (can be touch and goes, as long as its not a tail wheel). They can be anytime, if you want to take her up at night they'll need to be 1 hour after sunset to 1 hour before sunrise and they all have to be full stops (even in a tricycle gear)

Here is a link to determine sunset time for you location.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html

Freight Dog, hydroflyer,exchxflyer and the others, thank for the helpful replies.

 

[Humble-Pielot]

Mythical Wx

Freight Dog is right fellas...I have been flying with a large freight operator for almost a year, and you will never see an off night because of weather. Companies will always look at the legal aspect of the weather and you must at least attempt a run at it. However, YOU are the PIC and may choose to cancel the flight, but, as you soon learn, most severe weather passes in due time and isn't always as bad as it looks on radar.

Take Florida this time of year for example. As pilots in training and CFI's, most of us look at the radar around 14:00 and don't even think twice about a long X-C. After a few weeks (maybe days, depending upon luck) you will learn that most weather is circumnavigable. Freight flying is a tough business. Anyone who operates here will tell you, myself included. But, just as with any other aspect of commercial aviation, you will have to deal with Wx. Whether its 500 pounds of checks and lab work, 500 or 5 passengers, that you haul...we all fly through the same garbage.

As for everyone jamming each other up on this board, you have to learn to take everything with a grain of salt. I actually find it humourous to read some of the replies... Don't be afraid to ask questions, but do expect to get some pretty harsh feedback from somebody. No matter what the post, someone is looking to slam you, so just expect it.