Put this in the WTF file

[ERJFO]

24 CRJ@'s and 20 E145's

Adding 5 per year for the next 5 years
Which comes to 69 birds by 2012

That sucks for us.

 

[Superpilot92]

24 CRJ@'s and 20 E145's

Adding 5 per year for the next 5 years
Which comes to 69 birds by 2012

Just my opinion, but i bet that doesnt happen. 44 airplanes will be it, i but we shall see.

CAL just increased our Block hours AGAIN for next year, go figure.

 

[SMOE]

I can see the Out Sation bases opening up for COA. We have IAH, SDF, and CRP now for the CRJ2, along with STL E145 COA flying.

I have a feeling we may see another Texas City as well.

Off the top of my head I belive the Jan bid pack listed MAF as well ;-)

 

[Bluestreak]

I only applied at one airline, and held out till I got on there because even as a CFI I knew there were only a few compaines I felt were furthering the profession, the one's I mentioned above are obviously not included in that category.

Bah ! I call BS.Ask any mainline pilot how regionals "further the profession".

 

[BlueCanoe]

I understand what you are saying. No one is going to be happy however, when 1/3 of their fleet is "up in the air" and it's benifiting another pilot group. Some of us believe that if you worked under an identical contract you wouldn't have been awarded our flying. Some of us believe that by working for a company like SkyWest or CHQ or Mesa you are hurting us all because ignoring a poor contract or a few missing payscales because you'll "upgrade soon" isn't helping those of us at other airlines that won't, and it's certainly not helping those of us that are loosing existing work (at the cost of our jobs possibly) so someone who agrees to work for less can upgrade.

I only applied at one airline, and held out till I got on there because even as a CFI I knew there were only a few compaines I felt were furthering the profession, the one's I mentioned above are obviously not included in that category.

You think it has to do with OUR contract? You're an idiot. If YOU listen to the conference call from CAL, we WEREN'T the lowest bid. We won 2 RFPs for a mixed fleet of flying. Do you maybe think CAL is trying to diversify? Do you think they already picked a "winner" prior to the RFP since we have the machine that everyone wants?

Think on it for awhile.

I picked my regional because I needed a job.

I will, however, buy you a huge wooden cross so you can nail yourself to it.

 

[dogtown]

I was under the impression RAH only got 44 airplanes for CAL, XJT is losing 69, and the lift lost by the other 25 will be made up for by 737s at mainline...

Correct. 69 was the origional number, but it is no longer in play. I don't know where the previous (to yours) poster is getting that but it isn't in any press releases ect... Of course RAH could get more flying in the next few years, (There is a schedule to which CAL can remove flying from XJT) but we could also lose it; I believe our contract with CAL is for 2 years.

 

[ERJFO]

You think it has to do with OUR contract? You're an idiot. If YOU listen to the conference call from CAL, we WEREN'T the lowest bid. We won 2 RFPs for a mixed fleet of flying. Do you maybe think CAL is trying to diversify? Do you think they already picked a "winner" prior to the RFP since we have the machine that everyone wants?

Think on it for awhile.

I picked my regional because I needed a job.

I will, however, buy you a huge wooden cross so you can nail yourself to it.

You're just a little on the touchy side... To answer your question I know they didn't pick a "winner" before the RFP - and I have no idea what machine you have the everyone wants. I do think that if your costs were the same as ours you would not have won the RFP. Does your contract play into this? Yes... I fail to see how that makes me an idiot.

This is the seccond time you've attacked me with minimal conviction, you need to chill out bro... Are things tough at home? Wife leave you?

Instead of lashing out at me why don't you realize that loosing flying is a little bit of a frustrating experience, don't tell me how it's not your fault and how you're just a pilot and I need to grow up. I think the fact the my career and QOL are on the chopping block to the bennifit to others allows me to be a little bit unhappy. I don't need nor want to be called an idiot or be told some 45 year old rugby player is going to beat me up (I know thats not you). For God sakes though, I don't need to be rebuked for being a little pissed I'm getting hosed by factors I can't controll and I certainly don't need to be told by one of your F/O's that "you gotta deal with it thats how this goes" after he asks me "how are things at ExpressJet?" when I'm asking his CA for a jumpseat.

 

[Popeye0537]

You're just a little on the touchy side... To answer your question I know they didn't pick a "winner" before the RFP - and I have no idea what machine you have the everyone wants. I do think that if your costs were the same as ours you would not have won the RFP. Does your contract play into this? Yes... I fail to see how that makes me an idiot.

This is the seccond time you've attacked me with minimal conviction, you need to chill out bro... Are things tough at home? Wife leave you?

Instead of lashing out at me why don't you realize that loosing flying is a little bit of a frustrating experience, don't tell me how it's not your fault and how you're just a pilot and I need to grow up. I think the fact the my career and QOL are on the chopping block to the bennifit to others allows me to be a little bit unhappy. I don't need nor want to be called an idiot or be told some 45 year old rugby player is going to beat me up (I know thats not you). For God sakes though, I don't need to be rebuked for being a little pissed I'm getting hosed by factors I can't controll and I certainly don't need to be told by one of your F/O's that "you gotta deal with it thats how this goes" after he asks me "how are things at ExpressJet?" when I'm asking his CA for a jumpseat.

Welcome to the world of the regionals....boooo whooooo. Do you see any Chqu'ers on the board whining about how mesa won all of Delta's flying?? Cal dosen't want another Comair situation where if you guys strike the $hit would hit their fan. I'm glad you only chose one regional to fly for, as it sits CHQ would have been the better of the two. Your contract is not that much better than anyones so don't give me the "better contract" BS.

I'll say it for what I hope is the last time.....ITS NOT YOUR FLYING!

On a side note about commuting to CRP, what goes around comes around. I tried to J/S on you guys on monday out of IAH and was denied. I asked to speak to the captain and he refused to come up and talk to me. You guys have CASS but yet I was still denied, the gate agent told me that in Jan I could sit up front according to our agreement with CAL. You guys want to start a J/S war?? If you end up on one of my flights and have to sit up front I will politely deny you access and give you that captains name who denied me. Hopefully this wont ever happen again.

 

[Wankel7]

I thought CASS was still down for Continental and expressjet?

 

[Fly2Scuba]

Welcome to the world of the regionals....boooo whooooo. Do you see any Chqu'ers on the board whining about how mesa won all of Delta's flying?? Cal dosen't want another Comair situation where if you guys strike the $hit would hit their fan. I'm glad you only chose one regional to fly for, as it sits CHQ would have been the better of the two. Your contract is not that much better than anyones so don't give me the "better contract" BS.

I'll say it for what I hope is the last time.....ITS NOT YOUR FLYING!

On a side note about commuting to CRP, what goes around comes around. I tried to J/S on you guys on monday out of IAH and was denied. I asked to speak to the captain and he refused to come up and talk to me. You guys have CASS but yet I was still denied, the gate agent told me that in Jan I could sit up front according to our agreement with CAL. You guys want to start a J/S war?? If you end up on one of my flights and have to sit up front I will politely deny you access and give you that captains name who denied me. Hopefully this wont ever happen again.

I have never seen so many wrong bulls**ted statements in one post. First of all XJT and CAL's CASS system has been down for the last month and a half so no other airlines at this time are allowed in the actual JS. Our union is pestering the company is fast as possible to update in the system. With your attitude, I hope you got a mistrip.

Yes, our contract is much better and more inline with a mainline carriers then any other "regional". I feel fortunate to have the contract we have and it was due to a good management team, a better MEC, and an outstanding pilot group with the resolve to aquire a contract that recognized the major airline flying we conduct. It's quite ironic and somewhat sad that because of our threat to strike, the moronic decision by CAL was made to seek out a lower bidder. When I got hired, I was hired by Continental Express, a subsidery of Continental so yes, that was my flying.

I personally don't wish to take anyone elses flying, but you seem so proud to do so. You guys already are having many mickey mouse issues starting up the CRJ program. No, that's not really your fault. But don't pretend like Chataqua is a quality operation and try to convince people to come over there. Suck up your ego and perhaps the lack of candidates will help your chance of achieving a quality contract that your type of flying deserves as sure isn't "regional" flying. Chaulk it up in the greatest blunders in aviation history: Continental awards Chachuckles airlines flying.