PSA Questions

[CRJMonkey]

Looking for any info on the hiring at PSA. Are there any plans to start up again? How many guys are in the pool? I'm interested in a CLT base and wondered how hard that would be to get out of training? What's the latest on reserve in CLT? Ok, one last thing I'd like to hear about. How true is it that PSA gets rid of alot guys during the first year of probation? Is that just a rumor? I'm sure I'll think of more questions,but that's all for now. TIA

 

[Crzipilot]

Don't know on the plans to start up again and such... And CLT well it goes up and down, I guess....too lazy to look how many are still waiting to go there, but think most have gotten in, in a couple of months.
The first year comment, think most of those left on their own accord, nothing I know of which the company has done....

 

[CRJDog]

Looking for any info on the hiring at PSA. Are there any plans to start up again? How many guys are in the pool? I'm interested in a CLT base and wondered how hard that would be to get out of training? What's the latest on reserve in CLT? Ok, one last thing I'd like to hear about. How true is it that PSA gets rid of alot guys during the first year of probation? Is that just a rumor? I'm sure I'll think of more questions,but that's all for now. TIA

I don't know on future plans but everything is at a standstill. Till when? I do not know but as far as CLT goes it is a toss up. Some have gotten CLT right away and some have had to wait a couple months. If you get CLT plan on being on reserve for 1+ years, NOT fun. I have only heard of 2 folks that did not make probation. One was a tool and the other could not fly. Maybe there was a few more but just a few.

 

[nethan]

I'm almost through my first year (well, about 3/4ths) and haven't seen anybody forced out once they got through their line check. A few have left on their own for various reasons. As far as CLT... Pretty much everyone who wants to go is already there. There are few left that have it down as their number one choice and are still waiting. However, the last new hire class were all awarded CLT right out of school ahead of the senior people waiting to go. Dunno what the outcome of that is. Reserve in CLT could be close to a year. Who knows really as things change and change again here pretty fast.

 

[paddlehigh]

hired in october still in the pool. Heard that maybe a class in june, maybe.

 

[Weasil]

Dude, why do you want to work for PSA? We fly 70 seat jets for less money than other regionals fly E145s. Schedules are awful, no time off, ever. Scheduling department is ridiculously bad. There is no movement and the future upgrades are still going to be given to J4Js.

 

[EDUC8-or]

Looking for any info on the hiring at PSA. Are there any plans to start up again? How many guys are in the pool? I'm interested in a CLT base and wondered how hard that would be to get out of training? What's the latest on reserve in CLT? Ok, one last thing I'd like to hear about. How true is it that PSA gets rid of alot guys during the first year of probation? Is that just a rumor? I'm sure I'll think of more questions,but that's all for now. TIA

I'm not sure how deep the pool is, but we're not hiring right now. There's a good chance you might get CLT out of training. I had to go sit in Dayton for 5 months and Knoxville for 1 while the new hires came to CLT before me. Dayton sucks really bad. Maybe now that it's warmer it might be better, but there's not much to do there. Knoxvegas wasn't nearly as bad. The way things are currently going, you're looking at a minimum of 1 year on reserve. That's being very optimistic. I would say Charlotte is around 18 months, Dayton 14, and Knoxville 12 or so on reserve. We used to get rid of people during 700 differences, but I spoke with a check airman and he said those people simply couldn't fly and weren't prepared (didn't know limitations, systems, etc...)

If you're looking to live in Charlotte (at least for the time being) I would say go for it. If you're looking for movement and a quick upgrade keep looking.

 

[dollacrackho]

your biggest decision coming to psa is would you rather fly the 190 or the 350 when you flow through to mainline.

 

[nethan]

By the time that rolls around I think the choices will be between the EMB 200 or the Airbus 360

 

[IronWalt]

your biggest decision coming to psa is would you rather fly the 190 or the 350 when you flow through to mainline.

Dream on. That will never happen

 

[dollacrackho]

i've already got my e 190 stickers on order for my flight case. book it dano

 

[mamba20]

Seriously and I never thought I would say this, but go to mesa before you come here. I wouldnt even consider it. For every reason the Weasel said. I think he'll get 5 days off with is family this month. Yeah things are rosey over here. This place sucks, dont waste your time. Those of who are nowhere near upgrade are looking to get out while the senior FO's (poor bastards) have so much invested here that they cant really justify leaving. Seat lock sucks. Honestly, man, keep looking.

 

[IronWalt]

Mamba, are the J4J guys still there, or have most of them gotten tired of the BS and left yet??

 

[mamba20]

Have THEY? THEY??? gotten fed up with the BS? Those guys got the sweetest deal going, so sweet that many of them have no intention of leaving when recalled back to mainline (1 has already bypassed it). If anyone is sick of the BS its the seatlocked FO's.

 

[mamba20]

Iron,

To answer your quetion, no things havent smoothed out at all, infact they have gotten much, much worse. Listen to how we all talk about PSA on here? I've only been here 2 years and I'm already bitter toward it. I can only imagine how badly the 5 year FO's feel. That is why I get so passionate about this subject.

 

[PSAChiefPilots]

Iron,

To answer your quetion, no things havent smoothed out at all, infact they have gotten much, much worse. Listen to how we all talk about PSA on here? I've only been here 2 years and I'm already bitter toward it. I can only imagine how badly the 5 year FO's feel. That is why I get so passionate about this subject.

Mambo20,
Exactly how many guys do you have Junior to you that came from Mainline???
PSACPSP

 

[CRJMonkey]

Thanks to everyone who gave some honest responses. Wasn't aware that PSA was that bad. If that was really a PSA Chief Pilot it would have been nice to hear what he had to say...
Oh'Well guess I'll hold off on sending in my application. Thanks again!

 

[IronWalt]

CRJ,

If you want a good regional to consider then go to AWAC. They have a long history of treating employees with respect and professionalism. That is one reason why they have been in business as a stable private concern for so long. They are not perfect as no company is. But from what I have heard and read, they are one of the best.

The best thing you can do is exactly what you are doing here. Asking questions and doing your homework. Offer your skills and contributions to the company that is worthy of you as an employee. As you ARE there to help them generate revenue.

Good luck,

 

[Weasil]

Thanks to everyone who gave some honest responses. Wasn't aware that PSA was that bad. If that was really a PSA Chief Pilot it would have been nice to hear what he had to say...
Oh'Well guess I'll hold off on sending in my application. Thanks again!

CRJMonkey,
That really is one of the chief pilots posting. It's the CLT chief pilot.

 

[PSAChiefPilots]

CRJMonkey,
That really is one of the chief pilots posting. It's the CLT chief pilot.

It's one of the CLT Chief Pilot's!
PSACPSP

 

[PSAChiefPilots]

Thanks to everyone who gave some honest responses. Wasn't aware that PSA was that bad. If that was really a PSA Chief Pilot it would have been nice to hear what he had to say...
Oh'Well guess I'll hold off on sending in my application. Thanks again!

I'm not sure exactly what I was supposed to say, Guess you made your mind up anyway.
Good Luck,
PSACPSP

 

[wanabe_fo]

new hire class

SP,
You were right on with your prediction of the last new hire class of begining of Jan. Any feel for the next new hire class?

 

[dollacrackho]

i heard new classes in may for attrition.

 

[jetfo]

Thanks to everyone who gave some honest responses. Wasn't aware that PSA was that bad. If that was really a PSA Chief Pilot it would have been nice to hear what he had to say...
Oh'Well guess I'll hold off on sending in my application. Thanks again!

It was the CP, why don't you ask him?

 

[ABITRATOR]

Dude, why do you want to work for PSA? We fly 70 seat jets for less money than other regionals fly E145s. Schedules are awful, no time off, ever. Scheduling department is ridiculously bad. There is no movement and the future upgrades are still going to be given to J4Js.

Then why are you still working there? You must be comfortable with your pay.

 

[Weasil]

Actually I have several job interviews lined up. I support a family, so I don't have the luxury of just quitting before something else comes along. And no I didn't vote yes on the payrate, neither did most of the pilots here, the whole agreement was ratified by our MEC after we voted it down. That MEC is now gone thank goodness.

So in answer to your question, no I am not comfortable with the pay.

 

[geojet707]

Actually I have several job interviews lined up. I support a family, so I don't have the luxury of just quitting before something else comes along. And no I didn't vote yes on the payrate, neither did most of the pilots here, the whole agreement was ratified by our MEC after we voted it down. That MEC is now gone thank goodness.

So in answer to your question, no I am not comfortable with the pay.

So...did you like the Bahamian beer??

 

[CRJMonkey]

It was the CP, why don't you ask him?

JETFO...I would think the PSAChiefPilot read my original post and all
the responses to it. If he thought they where unfair would he not have defended PSA! Since he didn't I assume they where all pretty honest ,so what could he add. Hopefully things will get better! I decided to put in an application to AWAC. Heard they have started interviewing for May classes.

 

[ABITRATOR]

Actually I have several job interviews lined up. I support a family, so I don't have the luxury of just quitting before something else comes along. And no I didn't vote yes on the payrate, neither did most of the pilots here, the whole agreement was ratified by our MEC after we voted it down. That MEC is now gone thank goodness.

So in answer to your question, no I am not comfortable with the pay.

My heart goes out to you and your family, but there comes a time in life when we have to stand up and say enough is enough. If we as a pilot reguardless of which company you work for, are'nt going to stand for something then we will fall for anything. That is what put us and the mainline guys in the situation in which we are right now.

 

[PSAChiefPilots]

JETFO...I would think the PSAChiefPilot read my original post and all
the responses to it. If he thought they where unfair would he not have defended PSA! Since he didn't I assume they where all pretty honest ,so what could he add. Hopefully things will get better! I decided to put in an application to AWAC. Heard they have started interviewing for May classes.

I am who it says I am, I do not respond on the boards for everything negative said about PSA, You know what they say, Opinions are like ??? Everyone's got one.

I was hired here young like some of the current guys and my situation has been much different then their's. For one, when I got here, I knew it would be 4 plus years for upgrade, and it was, although there were people who upgraded the same time I did who had only been here 8 months, Just the way the cycle worked out, and I bypassed for 6 months because I commuted. Sat 6 days of reserve as a Captain at the time, There are guys now who have sat 3 plus years of reserve, Until you've done it, Reserve sucks (I did it as an FO and we furloughed then as well where I was 5 from the bottom.) The Jets 4 Jobs situation has changed things even more so we have a group of Junior Capts/Senior FO's who are somewhat pissed off period. I know most of the guys who post here as they know me, I would not try to sway there opinion because this is the way they feel, I am not in there shoes, I'd probably be upset as well, no matter who made the decesion for them, we are all living with it. I guarentee you that most of the Jets for Jobs guys will tell you it's no easy street either. Weird time in the business, just a new low in the cyclic phases.

Good Luck,
PSACPSP