PSA - Possible Safety Alert?

[KingAirer]

Just let it go.

 

[phishn@daves]

<desperately searching for treetops post>


I completely agree with Stick on this one. And a couple to add........

Don't run with scissors.
Use velcro instead of laces. (obvious reasons)
Be careful what you wish for.
Don't trust a skinny cook.
Shoot first......"query" later.

And a bit of advice...........I've never gone to bed with a fat chick, I have however woken up next to one. Always drink with a friend around.

 

[mmmdonut]

Wow.. Stick is really stubborn. He won't admit his post was lame and inappropriate.

I suggest we all call him names in rapid succession until he capitulates.
That's right, stick ass, all you have to do is say you were wrong and we will let it slide. Here, I'll begin.

1. You are a douchebag.

 

[767200]

UNSAFE. This is unsafe regardless of policy. This is especially dangerous when the a/c is in close prox to others, fuel is being delivered and total reliance is being placed upon systems and "redundant systems".

There was absolutely no crew on board - I watched them leave the plane and heard the inbound crew for the plane (45 mins later) call in-range.

Ted - I walked over to the a/c and verified that the crew had left the a/c (the CA had a flight to catch - I assume to go home due to what I heard on his in range call). I watched the FA and FO leave and close the a/c. The reason that I noticed the situation is because appx. 15 mins after the crew left, I noticed a blinking yellow light in the cockpit on the glareshield. My crew thought it was a fuel truck rotating beacon reflection. Then I noticed exhaust fumes from a running APU. That's when I walked over to the a/c, flagged down a Ramp Super and queried.

Poor - I talked to ops and no one responded back to me when I let them know the a/c was still powered up.

FmrFrieght - I am not second guessing the crew. I am second guessing the saftey of a decision or a policy you FUKC. I will worry about my own stupidity and continue to follow my better judgement and my GOM/FAR's in that order. Safety, Cerificate, Company is what I've practiced for 14 years. It's worked so far. Regarding "calling the crew out by tail number on a public forum is a good way to get someone in trouble with management", if they deserve to get in trouble - so be it. My allegience is not with the company or with management or with any pilot individually. It is with the pilot group as a whole. And the pilot group as a whole should always be on the side of safety as well as policy. I question the SAFETY of the crew/airline on their "procedure" or the shortcomings of the crew if it was an "error". If it was a shortcoming, I hope that bringing attn. to it will rectify this situation. You, my friend, if you believe that quality evaluation and assurance of performance doesn't belong on a forum, are the "Idiot". Regardless if the crew was indirectly identified or not. PM me and we can chat more freely about it if you want.

Why? At TSA we can "ground safe it" (APU running, NO Bleeds, Batteries OFF, Emergency Lights OFF). The APU will automatically shutdown if detects iny fault.

 

[Bluestreak]

Why? At TSA we can "ground safe it" (APU running, NO Bleeds, Batteries OFF, Emergency Lights OFF). The APU will automatically shutdown if detects iny fault.

Why,indeed ! I guess the rest of us are just airplane-driver switch monkeys because we don't comb the entire DCA ramp for aircraft being fueled before starting an APU.Perhaps "Stickman" consults with ground and issues a NOTAM before every engine or APU start.He is truly a candidate for a$$nozzle of the century.If any PSA crew does suffer from his idiot actions,I hope they seek legal action against him.And punch him in the ballz.Prolly some Freedumb scab who washed out at PSA.For the record,I am a "Frank Was Right" alumni.Now "stick",have a big steamin' bowl of STFU.

 

[RSRVWINDSURFR]

Especially when a $14.00/hr fueler is out on the side of an a/c.(for a million safety reasons).

Why? Are you afraid the fueler is going to get confused and try and fuel the aircraft through the APU air inlet? Central point fueling needs the a/c powered up, idiot. Oh, and you just said you never entered the A/C, so how do you know nobody was hanging out in the back? At X-Jet, the apu's are leased, and we are charged per cycle, not time used. It comes out in the wash, so ya might as well be comfortable...

 

[Stick Man]

some more fuel . . .

NTSB report 20001211X11594.

I will concede that the aircraft was not unattended, but the crew was sleeping in bunks. The event that happened was outside of the control of the crew and a fire ensued.

If a similar event happened at DCA, a major incident could have taken place. It would definately be a better situation if the unattended a/c was not powered up via the APU.

I know this NTSB event is a stretch (I am willing to admit that), but I am still looking for an event that would be more applicable.

 

[CRJDog]

I say that this thread should be deleted. Obviously, d!ckman here does not have a clue of what he is talking about. Maybe it would be better for him to stay inside the terminal with his face pasted on the glass like most kiddies.

 

[DirkkDiggler]

If any PSA crew does suffer from his idiot actions,I hope they seek legal action against him.And punch him in the ballz.

Great suggestion but from the sound of it, Stick D!ck doesn't have any balls. He certainly panics like a nervous b!tch.

A couple people have posted that the APU needs to be running to refuel. I was loathe to say this because I don't want to sound like I'm supporting Stick D1ck's statement, but the CRJ does NOT have to be powered up in order to be pressure refueled. The refuel/defuel panel is tied directly to the battery bus so the APU does not need to be running for the fuel guy. That being said, I'd still leave the dammned thing on unless the aircraft were going to sit for an hour or more.

 

[StaySeated]

"Alas, I was wrong.Now go get your Fuc%ing shine box!"

Your killing me, I am going to bust out the DVD and watch that scene right now. Thats the hardest I have laughed at flightnoinfo, and this site makes me laugh all the time!

 

[phishn@daves]

"Alas, I was wrong.Now go get your Fuc%ing shine box!"

Your killing me, I am going to bust out the DVD and watch that scene right now. Thats the hardest I have laughed at flightnoinfo, and this site makes me laugh all the time!

Ha!

Well you been gone for a while maybe you didn't hear, I aint a firefighter no more.

 

[treetopflyer]

stick man,

while i havent kicked anyones ass in a while and i would love to give and old fashioned country ass-whuppin on you for being a dip-sh$t in general. it makes me happy just to know that you are dumb and i am not.

btw we all know people like you

on the line: you are so standard you cant operate outside the box and write up people who do things "you" think are unsafe.

in the classroom: you are the one who has "one more question" when its time to go home.

at home: you fukc your wife/girlfriend/gay lover missionary style only. because thats how god wants it and you follow the rules

im sorry but i would like to offer you a tall cold very frosty glass of STFU

dork!

 

[Stick Man]

Treetop

You couldn't be more wrong...

1. I have a right to my opinion.
2. I understand the difference between standard, technique and opinion
3. I never ask the "one more question", in fact, I'm usually at the door by then
4. Your wife can attest to the rest.
5. Regarding pouring me a frosty one, I'd rather have you offer to open up a can. We'd see who the real man was then. By the way, your wife can still attest to that one, too.

SM

 

[treetopflyer]

i grow weary of you.

so you have fun, flanders

 

[DirkkDiggler]

You couldn't be more wrong...

1. I have a right to my opinion.
2. I understand the difference between standard, technique and opinion
3. I never ask the "one more question", in fact, I'm usually at the door by then
4. Your wife can attest to the rest.
5. Regarding pouring me a frosty one, I'd rather have you offer to open up a can. We'd see who the real man was then. By the way, your wife can still attest to that one, too.

SM

Well I guess now nobody can argue the expression, "Ignorance is bliss."

Get this. This jerkoff posted the following quote on another thread, and now THIS. Unbelievable. "Son, you have anger issues. And you also need to learn to fight better battles. Life is too important." (Stick Man) Stick D!ck, maybe you should be fighting better battles, or better yet, leave the battles to the people who use their brains.