Police warning!!

[Flywrite]

People who correlate flying to driving, are just talking outa their butt! i fly differently than i drive! should be serious and professional and that is because 80% or more of the people who fly, take it seriously. Driving is a different story. People are jerks and think they own the road. AND by driving fast doesn't mean someone is an agressive driver. they are two totally different things. And agressive driver normally is a fast one, but a fast driver isn't always agressive. I classify myself as a fast driver. I try not to tailgate, and dont try to piss people off, cause they might be crazy enough to pull a gun on you. But no one is going to shoot you just because you pass them!

Yeah, you print that out and take it with you to your first airline interview to go with your motor vehicle records check.

 

[navigator72]

If you routinely speed, you will eventually get caught and probably be given a ticket. The location of where you are speeding is big in determining whether or not you will be pulled over and given a ticket.
If you are doing 5-6 MPH over but you are in a school zone or cruising through a housing development with lots of kiddies running around, you will probably get nabbed. If you are driving on a desolate road where there is nothing, you could probably get away with 15-20MPH over and be just fine.

Here is a helpful tip from my friendly police officer girlfriend (future bride)
If you do get pulled over for speeding DON'T LIE, DON'T CALL US NAMES, BE POLITE AND COURTEOUS and we might just give you a warning.

 

[Crimson03]

Let us all be aware of our personal over the speed limit permissiveness. For example which car is going faster a clean reasonable new sedan with a >30 year driver with short hair and a clean shirt traveling at 60 mph in a 45 mph zone or a pimply faced long hair teenager in a primer colored ****box mustang covered with moroso and edelbrock stickers going 60 mph in a 45 mph zone. Of course the world claims not to be prejudiced but the mind just don't work that way.

 

[avbug]

People who correlate flying to driving, are just talking outa their butt! i fly differently than i drive!

Is that the voice of 250 hours of experience, or do you suppose that insurance companies, aircraft companies, airlines, charter firms, corporations, flight schools, yada ad nauseum just know less than you? Which would that be?

How you operate your twelve thousand dollar vehicle does indeed have a very big bearing on how you operate that twenty five million dollar vehicle. If you can't be trusted to operate responsibly and within the law in something a sixteen year old pimple faced ball of nerves can legally do, it speaks spades about your character as a pilot...weather you like it, or not.

What you do in your car, from speeding to driving under the influence, will most certainly be taken as demonstration of your character as a pilot. The FAA thinks so, insurance companies think so, employers think so. That you do not means...nothing. Wise up.

 

[Milkdud99]

Is that the voice of 250 hours of experience, or do you suppose that insurance companies, aircraft companies, airlines, charter firms, corporations, flight schools, yada ad nauseum just know less than you? Which would that be?

How you operate your twelve thousand dollar vehicle does indeed have a very big bearing on how you operate that twenty five million dollar vehicle. If you can't be trusted to operate responsibly and within the law in something a sixteen year old pimple faced ball of nerves can legally do, it speaks spades about your character as a pilot...weather you like it, or not.

What you do in your car, from speeding to driving under the influence, will most certainly be taken as demonstration of your character as a pilot. The FAA thinks so, insurance companies think so, employers think so. That you do not means...nothing. Wise up.

its funny how general you can make your statements! NO ONE can fit people into a mold! Your are ASSUMING that because i drive a little fast, that i am a bad pilot, and that i break every rule in the FAR. Well the sad thing is, is that you are wrong. The way i handle myself in the cockpit is completely different from how i handle myself in the "real world!"

If your saying that your real life parrallels how you act in the cockpit then i feel bad for you. There is a time and a place for seriousness and a time and a place for humor. The way I handle myself in the cockpit is a serious no BS manner, but when i get down and out of the aircraft, my nice, relaxed, funny side comes out! If you feel you have to be a tight wad all the time then go ahead. but DO NOT be judgmental and throw me in some category by just a few posts on a forum.

You seem to use words like childish and immature in a lot of your posts around hear. So i'll relay them to you. Being Judgemental on first impressions like you have done with me, Is very CHILDISH and IMMATURE! If you really have an urge to see how i act, meet me and you'll be suprised!

 

[FN FAL]

If you routinely speed, you will eventually get caught and probably be given a ticket. The location of where you are speeding is big in determining whether or not you will be pulled over and given a ticket.
If you are doing 5-6 MPH over but you are in a school zone or cruising through a housing development with lots of kiddies running around, you will probably get nabbed. If you are driving on a desolate road where there is nothing, you could probably get away with 15-20MPH over and be just fine.

Here is a helpful tip from my friendly police officer girlfriend (future bride)
If you do get pulled over for speeding DON'T LIE, DON'T CALL US NAMES, BE POLITE AND COURTEOUS and we might just give you a warning.

I'll try not to confuse your girlfriend if she gets lucky enough to catch me off guard.

 

[FN FAL]

Let us all be aware of our personal over the speed limit permissiveness. For example which car is going faster a clean reasonable new sedan with a >30 year driver with short hair and a clean shirt traveling at 60 mph in a 45 mph zone or a pimply faced long hair teenager in a primer colored ****box mustang covered with moroso and edelbrock stickers going 60 mph in a 45 mph zone. Of course the world claims not to be prejudiced but the mind just don't work that way.

Hahaha...I got three tickets in one weekend on a motorcyle when I was 18 years old and it was a 550 Super Sport.

Now I got an 1050 CC, 6 cyl, 6 carb, 24 valve, dual overhead cam, leviathan. It has seen some pretty good red line action, but no tickets.

Maybe it isn't FASTER in the older v. younger scenario...maybe it's EXPERIENCE?

I was out blowing off some steam on the interestate one day with the CBX. I'd slow down around some cars, gently pass them and get back over in the right lane. When a clear patch would come up ahead, I would downshift and pound the snot out of that 6 banger. Only between the "emergency u-turn" places the cops sit and not near any overpasses. I got this highway memorized like the back of my hand.

I'm pounding up to a group of cars and then slowing down, easing into the left lane and passing and then after it's clear again...it's back to afterburners. Gotta love those federally mandated 85 mph speedometers.

Anyway, as I'm about ready to do the "in the clear thing" again, I notice what appears to be a mini-van in my left rear view mirror and it's steaming along quite nicely and my brane says, "Mini-van?" No way!

So I back down and do the 7 mph over thing, to remain at the highway flow speed and as the "mini-van" gets closer, I see it's a Wisconsin State patrol Crown Victoria with rack lights on the roof. The shape of the vehicle looks like a mini-van in my rear view mirror. I guess he was sneaking up and trying get some "certified calibrated" odometer time on me.

He tagged along for a while, but there was not going to be a speeding ticket from him that day.

If you're young, dumb and full of cum...you'll get your adult education one ticket at a time.

 

[UnAnswerd]

I've been ticketed for doing 93mph in a 15mph school-zone. I asked the cop if I could see the radar reading. He said no. I then told him that I must have a faulty speedometer. He wasn't happy.

 

[FN FAL]

I've been ticketed for doing 93mph in a 15mph school-zone. I asked the cop if I could see the radar reading. He said no. I then told him that I must have a faulty speedometer. He wasn't happy.

Did he help you dig the "Dora the Explorer" and "Shrek" lunch pails out of your wheel wells? They always roll their eyes when I ask them to help me with that one...as if holding my beer for me while I do it is being enough of a public servant.

 

[transpondersoff]

FNFAL great post...

 

[Brett Hull]

if you are driving on a desolate road where there is nothing, you could probably get away with 15-20MPH over and be just fine.

You'd think so.

About 6 weeks ago my wife's brother walked in their dad's house late one evening and found him lying dead in the middle of the floor. We left BHM around 9:30 p.m. so we could be there in the morning when they told her mom, who lives in a nursing home. Deputy Dewey in Alexander County, IL thought he needed to keep the road that runs through the middle of the cornfield safe, and at 4:15 a.m. popped me doing 70 in a 55. So much for sympathy. And we could not have been more polite to him. Not sure why he didn't just go ahead and spit in my wife's face while he was at it.

Multiple officers have been arrested for DUI.

The one thing that burns my hindquarters more than anything are cops who DUI. I guess it's o.k. for them to do it. But if they have the slightest inkling that you have been, like they did with TC's wife, you're off to the clink.

I can't remember if it was late last year or early this year, but one night in St. Louis an off duty cop left the bar and proceded to get on the highway going the wrong direction. When the 18 wheeler he was approaching head-on swerved to miss him, he exposed the police cruiser behind him and the on duty and off duty cops met head on. Result: 2 fatalities.

I wonder how many people that little pr!ck busted for DWI before he decided to go out and get hammered and kill a fellow officer? And the bar he left, it was the local off duty police officer hangout. And I'm sure they all had designated drivers.

 

[SammyG]

I got pulled over for speeding, except I was looking at the meter and saw I was going 63 (in a 55). The cop said he had me on radar goin 81. I told him he needed to check his equipment. He didn't.

I don't trust cops anymore since then.

If I had known at the time that I was legally allowed to have him show me the radar I would have done it, cause I got boned that day.

 

[Chocks]

I asked a cop about a "speed buffer" over the limit. He smiled and told me:

"5 you drive, 9 you're mine!"

 

[avbug]

its funny how general you can make your statements! NO ONE can fit people into a mold! Your are ASSUMING that because i drive a little fast, that i am a bad pilot, and that i break every rule in the FAR. Well the sad thing is, is that you are wrong. The way i handle myself in the cockpit is completely different from how i handle myself in the "real world!"

I made no assumptions, nor do I do so. I quoted you. If you're upset, get upset at yourself. Your words, not mine, my 250 hour friend. You've got the world all figured out, you know the industry, you know more than the FAA, than employers, insurance companies, agencies, etc. Keep it up, educate us all. You probably won't change the system, but we'll all be very impressed. I know I certainly am.

If your saying that your real life parrallels how you act in the cockpit then i feel bad for you. There is a time and a place for seriousness and a time and a place for humor. The way I handle myself in the cockpit is a serious no BS manner, but when i get down and out of the aircraft, my nice, relaxed, funny side comes out! If you feel you have to be a tight wad all the time then go ahead. but DO NOT be judgmental and throw me in some category by just a few posts on a forum.

In your young, arrogant state, you may not realize that few, if any of us require your validation to lead our lives, nor do we need your pity. Yes, how you act on the road has a big bearing on your professional character. It's for this reason that obtaining a DUI on the road will affect your ability to be insured, employed, to hold a medical certificate, and even a pilot certificate. Have you figurd out why that is?

Have you ever wondered why a felony conviction, having nothing to do with flying, is taken deeply into consideration when contemplating your character as a pilot, and how a conviction for certain crimes or acts entirely unrelated to flying may be held against your ability to obtain an ATP on the grounds of your moral character? Everything you do has a bearing on everything else you do. If you break the law in one area, if you feel you are above the law and some how it does not apply to you, then that's a character problem that doesn't confine itself to one small aspect of your behavior. You may feel it doesn't, but you are wrong. Every authority in the industry, every major force, company, agent for insurance, the FAA, etc, disagrees with you.

But then again, you're here to educate us all...you know more, and you're under an obligation to educate us. Keep up the good work.

You seem to use words like childish and immature in a lot of your posts around hear. So i'll relay them to you. Being Judgemental on first impressions like you have done with me, Is very CHILDISH and IMMATURE! If you really have an urge to see how i act, meet me and you'll be suprised!

I'm hardly judgemental here; I used your own words. I have no desire to meet you, I'm far from impressed by you so far. Your words and language so far has indeed been childish, both in this thread, and the sister thread that was deleted. You brag about that for which you should be embarassed, and that is far from a mature effort at professionalism or responsible behavior. Your own words convict you. Give it up. You stand as an example of one who is far better closing his mouth and appearing a fool, than opening it and removing all doubt.

 

[SUSPilot]

I can't remember if it was late last year or early this year, but one night in St. Louis an off duty cop left the bar and proceded to get on the highway going the wrong direction. When the 18 wheeler he was approaching head-on swerved to miss him, he exposed the police cruiser behind him and the on duty and off duty cops met head on. Result: 2 fatalities.

I wonder how many people that little pr!ck busted for DWI before he decided to go out and get hammered and kill a fellow officer? And the bar he left, it was the local off duty police officer hangout. And I'm sure they all had designated drivers.

Not to say it was right, but just because he had a badge, or we fly airplanes does not make us immune from making mistakes. The drunk cop was a college friend of mine, and that night was completly out of character for him. Steve graduated with honors from college and was president of our fraternity, all while working almost full time not only to put himself through school, but to also help his younger brother go to school. He was always the first one to offer to pick one of our friends up if we had too much to drink instead of driving home, had just bought a house, and would have been getting married next month. While I am not going to say what he did was right, a bad choice none of us that knew him took two great men Steve and Officer Armstrong away from their family and friends and they will truly be missed.

 

[satpak77]

If I had known at the time that I was legally allowed to have him show me the radar I would have done it, cause I got boned that day.

dude too much CSI Miami or Judge Judy whatever.....your statement above is incorrect

 

[aeronautic1]

Speeding

When I was a deputy sheriff in Clallam County, Washington years back, it was the norm that we wrote for 11 MPH and above the limit. Unless of course she was really cute and there was a chance you could get her number, 5 MPH over. Chicken Fokker! Say, "Car Ram-Rod." Super Troopers Rocks!!

 

[FN FAL]

I asked a cop about a "speed buffer" over the limit. He smiled and told me:

"5 you drive, 9 you're mine!"

Sounds like a cop with too much time on his hands. Hopefully when it comes time for layoffs, maybe they'll have something for him to do over at park and rec, like painting picknick tables muni green.

 

[FN FAL]

When I was a deputy sheriff in Clallam County, Washington years back, it was the norm that we wrote for 11 MPH and above the limit. Unless of course she was really cute and there was a chance you could get her number, 5 MPH over. Chicken Fokker! Say, "Car Ram-Rod." Super Troopers Rocks!!

I know one police agency in Wisconsin with 130 or so officers, that has a policy that each officer must write at least one traffic citation or "citizens contact report" (written warning) per shift.

I think that is a fair "quota"...and you really don't have to work that hard to get one without being a jerk.

Usually these officers are backed up with calls when they begin their shifts, so they usually don't have time for sitting around clocking motorists. Once in a great while you'll see them working traffic enforcement, but they are usually pretty busy. They don't use moving radar in this municipality and even when they got donated the temporary use of a LIDAR by some state grant, it made the papers.

 

[FN FAL]

The one thing that burns my hindquarters more than anything are cops who DUI. I guess it's o.k. for them to do it. But if they have the slightest inkling that you have been, like they did with TC's wife, you're off to the clink.

To be fair, cops are people too and they have a stressful job...it doesn't make it right, but there are going to be police officers that get DUI's and it's obviously going to be more punishment for them when get one, than what a citizen is going to get.

I know a guy that was in his probationary period at the Ashwaubenon Department of Public Safety, that got a DUI. He was allowed to drive his patrol vehicle during his work shift on an "Occupational License". Imagine that?